Changing Country of Residence in the Post-MQD Era (Definitive)
Aug 28, 2015, 8:46 pm
#91
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I changed my address while I hit the FO MQM requirement (not MQD).
After the change, my status still shows I'll be a member (no medallion level) next year.
My status only shows up as gold "UNTIL" I hit the GM MQM requirement.
Not exactly sure whether you can do anything about this besides hitting DM .....
After the change, my status still shows I'll be a member (no medallion level) next year.
My status only shows up as gold "UNTIL" I hit the GM MQM requirement.
Not exactly sure whether you can do anything about this besides hitting DM .....
What does "shows up as gold "UNTIL" I hit the GM MQM requirement" mean ?
If you left the country while not having achieved status yet (domestic rules), then I think either you wait 2016, when the DL computer checks your account and sees that you had 25k MQM in 2015 and MQD do not apply, or you hit 50k while a foreigner this year and the computer sees that you have achieved GM which should become effective immediately.
Aug 29, 2015, 6:21 pm
#92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler45150
I was trying to find that. I only earned Silver while in the US and looking at my login screen it shows 0MQM to Gold and 8 Segments to gold. So even though I already have over 80,000MQM it is only showing to earn gold.
I changed my address while I hit the FO MQM requirement (not MQD).
After the change, my status still shows I'll be a member (no medallion level) next year.
My status only shows up as gold "UNTIL" I hit the GM MQM requirement.
Not exactly sure whether you can do anything about this besides hitting DM .....
Originally Posted by tyler45150
I was trying to find that. I only earned Silver while in the US and looking at my login screen it shows 0MQM to Gold and 8 Segments to gold. So even though I already have over 80,000MQM it is only showing to earn gold.
I changed my address while I hit the FO MQM requirement (not MQD).
After the change, my status still shows I'll be a member (no medallion level) next year.
My status only shows up as gold "UNTIL" I hit the GM MQM requirement.
Not exactly sure whether you can do anything about this besides hitting DM .....
Aug 31, 2015, 12:28 pm
#93
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Aug 31, 2015, 12:33 pm
#94
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It is here, in the small print at the bottom
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-qualification-dollars.html
It shows "to earn Gold" because you are currently FO.
Did you complete your change of residence before hitting 50k MQM ?
At that point the MQD requirement should have grayed out and as soon as you get to 50k you would ascend to GM status for the rest of year and the next.
If instead you were already above 75k when the MQD counter disappeared, then the system is waiting for you to hit the next threshold (125k) and at that point you would become DM.
Going from FO to DM directly is probably a feat you should write about on FT
It is also possible that the IT system is to blame and you should be already in a higher status. I distinctly remember that when DL transitioned to the MQD requirement the system for at least a couple of months in the new year was confused by non-US residencies and awarded rollover MQM based on a "phantom" status which still considered MQD's.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-qualification-dollars.html
It shows "to earn Gold" because you are currently FO.
Did you complete your change of residence before hitting 50k MQM ?
At that point the MQD requirement should have grayed out and as soon as you get to 50k you would ascend to GM status for the rest of year and the next.
If instead you were already above 75k when the MQD counter disappeared, then the system is waiting for you to hit the next threshold (125k) and at that point you would become DM.
Going from FO to DM directly is probably a feat you should write about on FT
It is also possible that the IT system is to blame and you should be already in a higher status. I distinctly remember that when DL transitioned to the MQD requirement the system for at least a couple of months in the new year was confused by non-US residencies and awarded rollover MQM based on a "phantom" status which still considered MQD's.
I did read that, but the way I interpreted that was based on the status you currently carry (in my case silver) was based from the US. Now that my address is based in China it will be based on that country.
Before I switched I didn't have the spend in, so I had the Gold MQM requirement but still short approx $700 on ticket spend.
I hope it is an IT issue and will work itself out, it not I am going to kick myself in the butt because I knew about this months ago and could have switched before I hit 75K MQM.
Mar 10, 2016, 1:29 pm
#95
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I did read that, but the way I interpreted that was based on the status you currently carry (in my case silver) was based from the US. Now that my address is based in China it will be based on that country.
Before I switched I didn't have the spend in, so I had the Gold MQM requirement but still short approx $700 on ticket spend.
I hope it is an IT issue and will work itself out, it not I am going to kick myself in the butt because I knew about this months ago and could have switched before I hit 75K MQM.
Before I switched I didn't have the spend in, so I had the Gold MQM requirement but still short approx $700 on ticket spend.
I hope it is an IT issue and will work itself out, it not I am going to kick myself in the butt because I knew about this months ago and could have switched before I hit 75K MQM.
On Jan 1, 15k rolled over but I had no status. I was just told by an agent that there is an unpublished rule that your address has to be international for the entire year for it to count. I know this can't be true. Anyway, I think it is pretty clear I deserve Gold status and that Delta would need to have been much more explicit (not just fine print) and a lot less contradictory (awarding roll over MQMs anyway) to have a leg to stand on here.
My main problem has been getting someone on the phone who is able to change my status. Any advice or comments?
Mar 10, 2016, 3:07 pm
#96
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I am having a similar problem. I ended last year with 65k MQM. I switched my address when I moved in Nov. I submitted the request before I hit 50k but the request was not recognized until after I hit 50k. The MQD section was then grayed out. Then I earned another 15k MQM. I was fairly comfortable with the fact that I would have status this year.
On Jan 1, 15k rolled over but I had no status. I was just told by an agent that there is an unpublished rule that your address has to be international for the entire year for it to count. I know this can't be true. Anyway, I think it is pretty clear I deserve Gold status and that Delta would need to have been much more explicit (not just fine print) and a lot less contradictory (awarding roll over MQMs anyway) to have a leg to stand on here.
My main problem has been getting someone on the phone who is able to change my status. Any advice or comments?
On Jan 1, 15k rolled over but I had no status. I was just told by an agent that there is an unpublished rule that your address has to be international for the entire year for it to count. I know this can't be true. Anyway, I think it is pretty clear I deserve Gold status and that Delta would need to have been much more explicit (not just fine print) and a lot less contradictory (awarding roll over MQMs anyway) to have a leg to stand on here.
My main problem has been getting someone on the phone who is able to change my status. Any advice or comments?
Mar 30, 2016, 9:05 am
#97
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I was going through the process for my wife and it looks like there's a way to do it online now when you put in a non-US address. It sends you to this form where you can upload the documentation: https://www.delta.com/contactus/page...ress/index.jsp
No more faxing! Huzzah!
No more faxing! Huzzah!
Mar 30, 2016, 2:07 pm
#98
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I was going through the process for my wife and it looks like there's a way to do it online now when you put in a non-US address. It sends you to this form where you can upload the documentation: https://www.delta.com/contactus/page...ress/index.jsp
No more faxing! Huzzah!
No more faxing! Huzzah!
Oct 8, 2016, 6:06 pm
#99
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Has anyone had success going from international to international? I don't have a lease or anything, but I have some mail -- mostly personal/frequent shopper card mail. I don't have anything like utilities in my name because it's a roommate situation.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Oct 8, 2016, 6:38 pm
#100
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Has anyone had success going from international to international? I don't have a lease or anything, but I have some mail -- mostly personal/frequent shopper card mail. I don't have anything like utilities in my name because it's a roommate situation.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Oct 8, 2016, 7:15 pm
#101
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Has anyone had success going from international to international? I don't have a lease or anything, but I have some mail -- mostly personal/frequent shopper card mail. I don't have anything like utilities in my name because it's a roommate situation.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
For the purposes of the Canadian and Hong Kong government I am a HK resident now. I kept my DL address as my Canadian address as there is no need to change it. My DD is living at my Toronto condo.
I have not received any snail mail correspondence from DL as there is no more physical status card and JWD and drink coupons are now online.
If your French address can still receive mail then I would not worry about changing it.
Last edited by tentseller; Oct 8, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Oct 9, 2016, 5:44 am
#102
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Has anyone had success going from international to international? I don't have a lease or anything, but I have some mail -- mostly personal/frequent shopper card mail. I don't have anything like utilities in my name because it's a roommate situation.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Would delta still ask for the proof? I have French residency and my profile reflects that but I'm in Canada for the foreseeable future.
Oct 28, 2016, 2:26 pm
#103
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To change address or not to change?
Hello:
I just recently
came to know that I could have avoided the MQD requirement for the last 1.5 years had I changed my address. I moved to UAE and have been able to maintain my DL status for the past 2 years.
Here is the question: I have qualified for Platinum till Feb. 2018 under the MQM/MQD US rules. I will be based in UAE for the next couple of years. If I change my address now I can get MQD waiver, however, what would be the impact on
a) my status till Feb 2018
b) my status after Feb 2018 (basically what do I do in calendar year 2017 to maintain Plat)
Please provide some guidance on best course of action.
Thanks
I just recently
came to know that I could have avoided the MQD requirement for the last 1.5 years had I changed my address. I moved to UAE and have been able to maintain my DL status for the past 2 years.Here is the question: I have qualified for Platinum till Feb. 2018 under the MQM/MQD US rules. I will be based in UAE for the next couple of years. If I change my address now I can get MQD waiver, however, what would be the impact on
a) my status till Feb 2018
b) my status after Feb 2018 (basically what do I do in calendar year 2017 to maintain Plat)
Please provide some guidance on best course of action.
Thanks
Oct 28, 2016, 2:39 pm
#104
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It has no bearing on current status. Future status is what will matter. Change it now. If you wait you'll need to wait for the next MQM/MQS level to hit after the MQD removal before getting status. Thus if you rollover 25k in MQM if you've already changed address you'll already have FO. If you wait though and change after rollover, you'll need to wait till you hit 50k to earn any status.
Oct 28, 2016, 6:18 pm
#105
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I just moved my address overseas with legit proof of my address and it was accepted. I noticed however with 80,000MQM my status hasn't updated. When I called to ask I was told it would just take a few days to process (even though my account was updated being out of the country overnight. After calling again after 3 days I was told that they will not update it until hit Diamond at 125,000MQM since I updated my address in the middle of a tier requirement.
Has anyone else heard this?
Has anyone else heard this?