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As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Red259
I'm a bit confused by some of the posts and just want to make sure I understand correctly. I got the Citi Exec card for the 100k offer three months ago. I have no other citi cards. My understanding is that I can not turn around and apply for the citi personal AA card for the 50k bonus (or at least not for quite awhile)? However, I can apply for the business version of the card? With regard to the business card how difficult is it to obtain it? I have a sole prop and I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to verify the business in order to get a recent ink bold approval.
Even better, you can get another EXEC card right away. 100K miles, a $200 statement credit, and a refundable AF beats 50K miles any day. Probably easier to get approved for another EXEC than for a Bus card too.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:05 pm
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If you were denied due to the 8/65 day rule, with no credit pull. Does that re start the 8/65 clock?
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
Even better, you can get another EXEC card right away. 100K miles, a $200 statement credit, and a refundable AF beats 50K miles any day. Probably easier to get approved for another EXEC than for a Bus card too.
Yea, not really going to be able to make the min spend now that VRs are dead.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Regarding cancelling master account associated with business card:



I have no idea, except to try to call up Citi and see if they can look that up.

But you also need to more specific: What card were you turned down for, and how many Citi accounts do you have that you know of? (And, if you can, what was the exact wording on the denial letter?)
I was trying for the 50,000 mile business MC. I previously had 2 business visas that were canceled over 2 years ago (but I did not ask to close both the card and account number). I have a personal MC that's over 10 years old. And 2 personal visas for just over a year. Never had any other kind of citi card.

I kept the denial email. It said, "You already have the maximum number of accounts that can be issued to an individual."
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Red259
Yea, not really going to be able to make the min spend now that VRs are dead.
I haven't found it too hard, although it is harder than before. Within the last month I got a Citi AA EXEC card, completed the 10k minimum spending requirement, paid off the card before the first statement cut, and was approved for a second card - all within ten days, half of which was the gap between approval #1 and getting card #1.

Of course, I knew that I had a $7500 bill to pay, and that I could do it with a CC. This is a once-in-a-quarter opportunity for me, maybe six times a year if I'm very skilled (we'll see). My card #2 (currently the only Citi AA EXEC card I have) won't get as much immediate usage, so I'll probably have to actually pay the AF. *shrug* As they say, "it's only money."
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by teddy25
If you were denied due to the 8/65 day rule, with no credit pull. Does that re start the 8/65 clock?
My experience is that you need to wait 60(65) days from a denial for violating the 8/60(65) rule.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by Brugge
Even better, you can get another EXEC card right away. 100K miles, a $200 statement credit, and a refundable AF beats 50K miles any day. Probably easier to get approved for another EXEC than for a Bus card too.
Yeah, simple comparison, 100K miles vs 50K miles, $200 statement credit vs $0 statement credit. WIN! Oh, wait, you need to spend $10,000 in less than a month versus $3000 in 3 months. Huh, it is almost as if there is some sort of balance here. Not to mention that it continues to push your personal clock out another 3 months.

Originally Posted by Electroman
I haven't found it too hard, although it is harder than before. Within the last month I got a Citi AA EXEC card, completed the 10k minimum spending requirement, paid off the card before the first statement cut, and was approved for a second card - all within ten days, half of which was the gap between approval #1 and getting card #1.

Of course, I knew that I had a $7500 bill to pay, and that I could do it with a CC. This is a once-in-a-quarter opportunity for me, maybe six times a year if I'm very skilled (we'll see). My card #2 (currently the only Citi AA EXEC card I have) won't get as much immediate usage, so I'll probably have to actually pay the AF. *shrug* As they say, "it's only money."
Yeah, I suspect somehow that almost anyone who gets cards could pull off $10,000 spend if they had a $7500 bill they could pay with a credit card. But as your own post shows, you are probably not going to be able to pull it off for the second card, which is what this discussion was about---getting a second Exec instead of a Biz card and having to spend $10K without VR.

Personally, I would not spend $250-450 for an extra 50-55K miles, but perhaps I am just weird that way. If it is only money, then perhaps you should just save your time and buy airline tickets.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by Red259
I recently changed my business address and so the address on my bank statement is still the old office address. I actually want to put the app in with my home office address vs using my official office address. Is this going to be a problem with using the bank statement? The business name is a sole prop that contains my name, so my name clearly shows on the biz account. I don't have a office utility bill, since its handled by the management company and would not be in my biz name. My home utility bill would just be addressed to me and not the biz. I have an office phone line installed in my home though.
It is best to use a business name that you can corroborate to an address. If the old business address is still available to you, you could try getting the card with that address and change the address afterward. If the business does not have two of: Bank Statement, Utility Bill, etc. then I think you would be better off using your name as the name of the business.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:03 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
Yeah, simple comparison, 100K miles vs 50K miles, $200 statement credit vs $0 statement credit. WIN! Oh, wait, you need to spend $10,000 in less than a month versus $3000 in 3 months. Huh, it is almost as if there is some sort of balance here. Not to mention that it continues to push your personal clock out another 3 months.

Yeah, I suspect somehow that almost anyone who gets cards could pull off $10,000 spend if they had a $7500 bill they could pay with a credit card. But as your own post shows, you are probably not going to be able to pull it off for the second card, which is what this discussion was about---getting a second Exec instead of a Biz card and having to spend $10K without VR.

Personally, I would not spend $250-450 for an extra 50-55K miles, but perhaps I am just weird that way. If it is only money, then perhaps you should just save your time and buy airline tickets.
Nope, you are not alone. Count my household in the same league.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
<>Personally, I would not spend $250-450 for an extra 50-55K miles, but perhaps I am just weird that way. If it is only money, then perhaps you should just save your time and buy airline tickets.
That's $500-$900 for round trip in business US to Europe or Asia. Where are you going to buy such a ticket for anything close?

It's not as if you can churn the 50k cards all that frequently.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by aaliz
I kept the denial email. It said, "You already have the maximum number of accounts that can be issued to an individual."
That may be a different problem than the master account issue. Did you call the reconsideration line? This should be something you can negotiate.
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by richarddd
That's $500-$900 for round trip in business US to Europe or Asia. Where are you going to buy such a ticket for anything close?

It's not as if you can churn the 50k cards all that frequently.
More importantly, how many trips you can take each year? How many miles you have across programs?

Some folks may have enough miles across programs that they have the next 3 to 5 years covered already. Such $500-$900 would become sunken cost, as new miles would be at the bottom of the pile that do not see the light years later. A friend just mentioned that, they will be out of the country for a total of 7.5 months in the next 12 months - 3 trips already booked, and 3 millions balances still remaining across programs. So he does not see any reason to get the card, except just one for the wife as a token.

Now, if this is $900 for $10,000 worth of hotel nights, that would be a totally different story. Unfortunately it isn't.

It is all relative. For us we would be on our 3rd trip this year to Asia (and Europe) in Sept, plus a trip to South Africa and Europe in Feb/Mar 2015, and still over 3 millions across programs that would be sufficient for next 3+ years even without any replenishment. Naturally we have a different perspective on this.

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Old Jun 28, 2014, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by Happy
It is all relative. For us...still over 3 millions across programs...Naturally we have a different perspective on this.
For us, we have a combined income of $1.5 million per year after taxes, and $20 million in the bank. Plus we have reimbursed business travel expenses that yield us over a million miles and points a year. Naturally we could care less about miles and points credit cards.

So yeah, if you have over 3 million miles, after having already booked your next years trips, you don't need another credit card. In fact, you don't even need to read this thread. Those of us who do need to read this thread, and were mentioning how great a deal certain offers are, are obviously not so flush with points and miles.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by richarddd
That's $500-$900 for round trip in business US to Europe or Asia. Where are you going to buy such a ticket for anything close?

It's not as if you can churn the 50k cards all that frequently.
Yes, it is actually just like that.

My wife and I churn business cards occasionally and get Personal cards every 18 months or so. When the two-browser trick worked and last summer when you could get AA Personal cards without the 18-month wait, we each got a couple. That included several 75K cards. So even after several RT Business trips to Europe, each, we are still sitting on 700K AA miles between us.

Doing 2 business cards a year (not pushing it) and one personal card every 18 months, at 50K per shot, you get 400K miles every three years, just from a few credit cards that cost you practically nothing. That is enough to get you a free RT business class to Europe every year and have miles leftover. And it doesn't kill your hard pulls and spend leaving you free to get plenty of other cards. If you want to toss in an occasional 100K Exec when you have the scratch to dump $10K on a credit card in <30 days, go for it. But doing the Exec repeatedly and eating the fee is a waste to me.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
<SNIP>

So yeah, if you have over 3 million miles, after having already booked your next years trips, you don't need another credit card. In fact, you don't even need to read this thread. Those of us who do need to read this thread, and were mentioning how great a deal certain offers are, are obviously not so flush with points and miles.
People who are flush with points normally got that way by making use of the good advice in threads like this and who earned miles without spending lots of money on them.

The real problem is, you mention what a great deal the Exec card is without any indication that there is more to it than more miles and a statement credit. That is completely useless information without mentioning the fee and the spend and how fast you have to make the spend to avoid the fee.

It is like saying: 500K HHonors points from HGVC beats a 60K Citi HHonors card every time. Oh, I didn't mention that you have to buy a timeshare? My bad.

Simply put, for people who need miles but don't have $60K+ in spend a year, multiple Exec cards probably aren't a great deal. If you want to help actual people, then provide more complete information rather than blanket statements that are almost certainly false for many or most readers here.
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