Security breach at YYZ
Jun 19, 2014, 10:06 pm
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Security breach at YYZ
What's happening there? I thought it was someone who went through checkpoint without screening.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...erns-1.2680602
CATSA offer accept apologizes to him and they let him on the plane. The flight was delayed. Due to security reason. This flight is on the way to Sao Paulo, Brazil.
They turnaround back to YYZ at 6:30am. They just arrived back to Toronto and after that they resume flight to GRU.
Here is the flight tracker:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...phpPTYmFv.jpeg
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...erns-1.2680602
CATSA offer accept apologizes to him and they let him on the plane. The flight was delayed. Due to security reason. This flight is on the way to Sao Paulo, Brazil.
They turnaround back to YYZ at 6:30am. They just arrived back to Toronto and after that they resume flight to GRU.
Here is the flight tracker:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...phpPTYmFv.jpeg
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Jun 20, 2014, 6:57 am
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Seems like this was rather annoying for a few other flights:
http://globalnews.ca/news/1403458/se...tial-lockdown/
I think to ask a plane to turn around that far into flight, one would hope the requirement is some sort of specific derogatory intelligence about the guy that bypassed security. If someone accidentally skipped a step in screening, it's just not worth it. The Canadians are usually a bit more reasonable than the Americans here...
http://globalnews.ca/news/1403458/se...tial-lockdown/
I think to ask a plane to turn around that far into flight, one would hope the requirement is some sort of specific derogatory intelligence about the guy that bypassed security. If someone accidentally skipped a step in screening, it's just not worth it. The Canadians are usually a bit more reasonable than the Americans here...
Jun 20, 2014, 7:59 am
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If there was a real security concern with this flight, they should have it land asap. Turning back to YYZ only proves that this was only security theatre.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
Jun 20, 2014, 8:50 am
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The track on the plane mostly took that route to waste time as they would not of been allowed to land in Toronto till 630?? I think that is when the first planes are allowed to land in the morning.
Jun 20, 2014, 9:26 am
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If there was a real security concern with this flight, they should have it land asap. Turning back to YYZ only proves that this was only security theatre.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
That's an interesting observation. It sure looks like it diverted away from the US.
Jun 20, 2014, 10:58 am
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If there was a real security concern with this flight, they should have it land asap. Turning back to YYZ only proves that this was only security theatre.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
To add to the security theater, the track shows that the returning flight was diverted away from the US, presumably to avoid flying near Washington DC and other major cities. What did the Americans think? That the terrorist intending to crash the plane over DC has passed up on the southbound opportunity, figuring they would turn around and he would have a second opportunity on the way north?
This detour off the coast added another 50 minutes of flying time, and over water. Yeah, that is the right thing to do to the hundreds on board who are feared to be in imminent danger.
Jun 20, 2014, 11:55 am
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Jun 20, 2014, 1:28 pm
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Flight did not divert away from US. It flew directly over the US. However, it did fly around major population in the VA-PHL-NJ-NY area (which also happened to be directly under bad WX). It then flew nearly directly over Boston. If US had real concerns about overflight and the aircraft was still to return to Canada, it would have diverted to YHZ.
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Jun 21, 2014, 10:30 pm
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must be quite an achievement for someone to avoid screening and be able to make it on the plane, i don't think any of us could even manage to do that no matter how much we try, there is no way you can "escape" that security line, so how the eff can someone miss being screened.
Or was it just catsa lazy employees who let the pax continue without caring much, until someone else noticed ??
What a kneejerk reaction. Should've just let the flight continue normally. They could've confirmed from the crew about that pax, and let the brazilians screen him once the plane landed. If there was no trouble onboard why did it cause such a panic for catsa ??
I can imagine a lot of pax on that flight must have been pissed off when the plane makes the u-turn and back to yyz, damn long flight
Or was it just catsa lazy employees who let the pax continue without caring much, until someone else noticed ??
What a kneejerk reaction. Should've just let the flight continue normally. They could've confirmed from the crew about that pax, and let the brazilians screen him once the plane landed. If there was no trouble onboard why did it cause such a panic for catsa ??
I can imagine a lot of pax on that flight must have been pissed off when the plane makes the u-turn and back to yyz, damn long flight