Full meal even on a short KA flight?
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Full meal even on a short KA flight?
At 4:42, the video poster was served a tray of warm food: dimsum + cookies and juice:
It says on the video it was an hour and a half flight. I've never flown KA, but I'm amazed how they can pull off that meal service and CX can't.
Anyway, I wanted to know if KA still serves hot meals on very short flights, like those between HKG and Taiwan or Clark (Philippines).
I've flown between MNL and HKG on CX (Y and PEY) and for the past three years, they have been serving the SAME brownish meat they call "adobo" wrapped in a warm, dry but chewy excuse for a tortilla.
A long time ago when Philippine Airlines originally declared for bankruptcy, catering was not available at MNL. CX outsourced it from The Mandarin Oriental. They served snack boxes with a chicken sandwich, a croissant, an apple and an orange. I think that was much more substantial, satisfying, healthy and presentable than what they serve today.
It says on the video it was an hour and a half flight. I've never flown KA, but I'm amazed how they can pull off that meal service and CX can't.
Anyway, I wanted to know if KA still serves hot meals on very short flights, like those between HKG and Taiwan or Clark (Philippines).
I've flown between MNL and HKG on CX (Y and PEY) and for the past three years, they have been serving the SAME brownish meat they call "adobo" wrapped in a warm, dry but chewy excuse for a tortilla.
A long time ago when Philippine Airlines originally declared for bankruptcy, catering was not available at MNL. CX outsourced it from The Mandarin Oriental. They served snack boxes with a chicken sandwich, a croissant, an apple and an orange. I think that was much more substantial, satisfying, healthy and presentable than what they serve today.
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It's because Filipino food is, by everyone else's standards, s h i t. The "adobo" is probably fairly authentic adobo, and that's as good as Filipino cuisine gets!
(I speak as someone who was married to a Filipina for some years, and still has property there)
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On short route on KA, they do serve much better meals than CX. Another note is KA airfare is relatively more expensive except on those competitive route(PEK & PVG). I recall flying from HKG - CSX cost slightly more than HKG - PEK and there's no gates when I flew to CSX, you take a bus and parked next to the aircraft and walked up the stairs to the aircraft. And KA staffs work like dogs. Aircraft is still cursing to runway, they are starting their oven, and until the cockpit announced, "Captain's crew back to your seat" then they sat and fastened their seat belt. With the first 'ping' sounded, they jumped up and back to their galley. They served a full flight(at least 200 passengers) within 50 mins(serving full meal, not sandwiches in a paper bag and retrieving trays and not collecting trash of your sandwiches bag) and executed professionally(with smiles), flight time was less than 70 mins. As compared with CX to TPE, KA scored!!!!!! On both food and services, period.
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I do like to point out that the Youtube video was posted a year ago. So I have to defer to others who fly on KA to verify if they are still serving hot meals after the rebranding.
A long time ago when Philippine Airlines originally declared for bankruptcy, catering was not available at MNL. CX outsourced it from The Mandarin Oriental. They served snack boxes with a chicken sandwich, a croissant, an apple and an orange. I think that was much more substantial, satisfying, healthy and presentable than what they serve today.
Speaking of Philippine Airlines, I believe they serve hot meals on all international flights unlike CX between MNL/CEB and HKG
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Never eat those wraps served on MNL routes, actually never eat any of the wraps CX gives you....just look at the expiry dates on those...last time I heard they can keep for 5 years....what on earth do they put in those things to make them last for 5 years!?!?
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Never eat those wraps served on MNL routes, actually never eat any of the wraps CX gives you....just look at the expiry dates on those...last time I heard they can keep for 5 years....what on earth do they put in those things to make them last for 5 years!?!?
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From what I know most meals on MNL flights are double catered from HKG, except for CX904 and CX912 which stays the night in MNL. Those would be catered by MacroAsia from what I recall. They do serve good Filipino breakfast on business class though, normally two months in a year.
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From what I know most meals on MNL flights are double catered from HKG, except for CX904 and CX912 which stays the night in MNL. Those would be catered by MacroAsia from what I recall. They do serve good Filipino breakfast on business class though, normally two months in a year.
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I've never been on CX912 in J. Do they have the exact same menu?
When both CX and PR started cutting back on their meal offerings between MNL and HKG, CX originally offered cold sandwiches on a "half tray." But I would hear a lot of Filipinos, especially the older ones complain that their sandwich was not "heated through." It was very amusing how a grandmother tried to hand back the tuna and shredded lettuce sub to the purser, asking him to heat it up. (I believe this is the reason why PR kept the warm meal.) I remember the quality of the sandwiches and the presentation was quite good for a short time. Later, after the SARS outbreak, they completely did away with the trays. The FAs would hand out spam-like sandwiches with cheese wrapped in foil and warmed in the ovens. I never ate any of those. Just horrible. The wraps today are a bit better. But I don't eat them either. LOL
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The breakfast in J on CX904 is quite good! The dim sum is very good, and miles better than the one they serve in their MNL lounge! It seems as though the dim sum menu (siu mai + har gau + turnip cake + scrambled egg) does not change. But I'm not complaining, as the quality and taste are quite good.
I've never been on CX912 in J. Do they have the exact same menu?
I've never been on CX912 in J. Do they have the exact same menu?
As for the lounge, never get dimsum at the lounge, I suggest the garlic rice option...that one is always good.
Last time I was on PR in Y was way back in 2011. CX had already done away with their regular meal trays on the MNL-HKG and MNL-TPE runs. PR followed suit, but instead of sandwiches, PR just kept the warm main meal plus a drink. They just eliminated the dessert and appetizer. I believe they may still be doing this to this day, as you said. So they still hand out "half-trays."
When both CX and PR started cutting back on their meal offerings between MNL and HKG, CX originally offered cold sandwiches on a "half tray." But I would hear a lot of Filipinos, especially the older ones complain that their sandwich was not "heated through." It was very amusing how a grandmother tried to hand back the tuna and shredded lettuce sub to the purser, asking him to heat it up. (I believe this is the reason why PR kept the warm meal.) I remember the quality of the sandwiches and the presentation was quite good for a short time. Later, after the SARS outbreak, they completely did away with the trays. The FAs would hand out spam-like sandwiches with cheese wrapped in foil and warmed in the ovens. I never ate any of those. Just horrible. The wraps today are a bit better. But I don't eat them either. LOL
When both CX and PR started cutting back on their meal offerings between MNL and HKG, CX originally offered cold sandwiches on a "half tray." But I would hear a lot of Filipinos, especially the older ones complain that their sandwich was not "heated through." It was very amusing how a grandmother tried to hand back the tuna and shredded lettuce sub to the purser, asking him to heat it up. (I believe this is the reason why PR kept the warm meal.) I remember the quality of the sandwiches and the presentation was quite good for a short time. Later, after the SARS outbreak, they completely did away with the trays. The FAs would hand out spam-like sandwiches with cheese wrapped in foil and warmed in the ovens. I never ate any of those. Just horrible. The wraps today are a bit better. But I don't eat them either. LOL
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You're lucky you got a muffin and juice. Only got water on my flight, but the Purser gave me an extra bottle during boarding.
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