DM Waitlist Priority Overrated?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
DM Waitlist Priority Overrated?
One of my relatives became a DM a few months ago and I generally manage their travel bookings. But I find that the waitlisting priority offered to DM is not really worth much and waitlists don't clear very easily at all.
For example, I'm trying to book a flight from BOM-HKG and on 12/13/14 January 2015, all 3 days have waitlisted CX684 in I class and nothing is clearing. From what I can tell, the flights are pretty light. So what use is the DM waitlist clearing priority? Is it overrated?
Does anyone else have this experience?
For example, I'm trying to book a flight from BOM-HKG and on 12/13/14 January 2015, all 3 days have waitlisted CX684 in I class and nothing is clearing. From what I can tell, the flights are pretty light. So what use is the DM waitlist clearing priority? Is it overrated?
Does anyone else have this experience?
#2
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,978
One of my relatives became a DM a few months ago and I generally manage their travel bookings. But I find that the waitlisting priority offered to DM is not really worth much and waitlists don't clear very easily at all.
For example, I'm trying to book a flight from BOM-HKG and on 12/13/14 January 2015, all 3 days have waitlisted CX684 in I class and nothing is clearing. From what I can tell, the flights are pretty light. So what use is the DM waitlist clearing priority? Is it overrated?
Does anyone else have this experience?
For example, I'm trying to book a flight from BOM-HKG and on 12/13/14 January 2015, all 3 days have waitlisted CX684 in I class and nothing is clearing. From what I can tell, the flights are pretty light. So what use is the DM waitlist clearing priority? Is it overrated?
Does anyone else have this experience?
CX has a habit of not releasing seats, even when it's very light, until the last minute. So yes, they like to make you sweat.
#3
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 904
Strictly speaking it is the computer that automatically releases award inventory into the system after doing continuous scans on the load factor of each specific flight. This typically happens roughly 3-4 weeks from the flight except for peak seasons such as CNY or the week before Xmas. I've had the privilege of speaking with a CX general sales manager not too long ago who confirmed that this is how it works, he even went ahead to comment that the system is sometimes too generous in releasing award seats, and CX control end up having to pull those seats from the inventory bucket.
Since the release of award seats are automated by the system, it is no surprise that those who click on award searches on cx.com at the right time may leapfrog others who have been on the waitlist for months. I guess this is when KVS and expertflyer comes in handy since you are notified instantly when awards are released.
And if this any interest to you, he did also say that CX will manually search for award inventory for its DMs. How often does this happen? Nobody knows for sure.
Since the release of award seats are automated by the system, it is no surprise that those who click on award searches on cx.com at the right time may leapfrog others who have been on the waitlist for months. I guess this is when KVS and expertflyer comes in handy since you are notified instantly when awards are released.
And if this any interest to you, he did also say that CX will manually search for award inventory for its DMs. How often does this happen? Nobody knows for sure.
#5
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: CX Diamond, BA Gold, Flying Blue Platinum (For Life), Royal Orchid Sliver
Posts: 44
I have continuously waitlisted for I class seats, despite being a DM for 9 years, the only way I seem to be able to clear the waitlists is to set up alerts in Expert Flyer, and then having to phone MPC to clear the waitlist when Expertflyer shows I class availability, perhaps this has now changed with the new CIV system.
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
I have continuously waitlisted for I class seats, despite being a DM for 9 years, the only way I seem to be able to clear the waitlists is to set up alerts in Expert Flyer, and then having to phone MPC to clear the waitlist when Expertflyer shows I class availability, perhaps this has now changed with the new CIV system.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: CX DM, SPG Pt, Le Club Accor GO, Shangri-La GC Jade
Posts: 1,327
Once when Flightstat still offer sub-class availability, I keep seeing D5 I2 or so for CX391, but CX never clear my D class swap from KA901 (yes, TW D )
#8
Left Expert Flyer 4/23
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,741
You may also try the available UK POS for your search (click on Advanced Options to see the option) as it may show results closer to your POS.