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Old May 17, 12, 3:57 pm   #1
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Transat AT unveils retrofitted jumbo jet as part of $36-million revamp

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/arti...million-revamp

MONTREAL - Tour operator Transat AT (TSX:TRZ.B) has unveiled its first retrofitted Air Transat jumbo jet as it moves ahead with a $36-million revamp to restore its profitability and preserve its position against aggressive competitors.
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Does it still have 29/30" pitch? If so, squashed comfort.

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For those of us of a certain age (I'm 45), "Jumbo Jet" will always mean a Boeing 747. I therefore clicked on the link with surprise, automatically assuming it was referring to Transat's now operating a Jumbo. Sadly, not the case.
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Does it still have 29/30" pitch?
31" on the 330. My parents fly them every year as they're the only non-stop to Paris from Vancouver, plus they're cheaper than a one-stop routing to CDG.
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31" on the 330.
More, up to 33", on the A350. Just FYI.
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For those of us of a certain age (I'm 45), "Jumbo Jet" will always mean a Boeing 747. I therefore clicked on the link with surprise, automatically assuming it was referring to Transat's now operating a Jumbo. Sadly, not the case.
Same here. They might be "heavies" in ATC speak, but they won't ever be jumbo's to me.
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More, up to 33", on the A350. Just FYI.
Isn't the A350 still a few years away from its first flight? And what number in the chain of orders (meaning how long will it be to actually take delivery of the bird) will TS be? Guessing that it will be quite a few years before we see a TS A350.

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Old May 22, 12, 7:54 pm   #8
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Isn't the A350 still a few years away from its first flight? And what number in the chain of orders (meaning how long will it be to actually take delivery of the bird) will TS be? Guessing that it will be quite a few years before we see a TS A350.

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Sorry and meant the A310. Dunno how I came up with the A350...
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For those of us of a certain age (I'm 45), "Jumbo Jet" will always mean a Boeing 747.


Some companies and news outlets seem to use "jumbo jet" for any kind of two-aisle aircraft, including some 767's which in some configurations barely hold more people than a single-aisle 757.

(I am willing, however, to concede use of the term "jumbo jet" for an A380, however.)
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B747 is enough Jumbo for me, and I'll miss them as many airlines are slowly parking them in favor of the twin engined fuel-savers. If I wanted a cruise ship I'd take a cruise, not an A380.

Haven't been on a TS A310 at all, although my wife has when they flew it from YYZ-BFS. She said the pitch on her flights was very tight, so unless they've changed it, I doubt it's 33" in the main cabin. We've both flown (years ago, granted) TS L-1011's (both models) to both LAS and LGW, and while I like those big, sturdy birds, the 30" pitch and "concrete seats" on TS made for very uncomfortable trips.

The B757, while definately not a jumbo, is still referred to as "heavy" by some airport's ATC, particularly in respect to the wake turbulance they generate for the smaller aircraft following them for landings/takeoffs, and certain airport's aprons may be off limits for their weights. But I always enjoy flights in a B757 because their powerful engines result in rocket-like takeoffs.

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Old May 24, 12, 7:27 pm   #11
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Haven't been on a TS A310 at all, although my wife has when they flew it from YYZ-BFS. She said the pitch on her flights was very tight, so unless they've changed it, I doubt it's 33" in the main cabin.
Having flown the main cabin A310 toward the back of the plane it is up to 33" seat pitch:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...nformation.php

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We've both flown (years ago, granted) TS L-1011's (both models) to both LAS and LGW, and while I like those big, sturdy birds, the 30" pitch and "concrete seats" on TS made for very uncomfortable trips.
And yes, years ago TS did have much tighter seat pitch but finally saw the light and reconfigured their fleet and pulled a few rows out and increased the room several years back. I also flew several times on the old L1011's and would agree that the seat experience uncomfortable when I flew TATL.
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Old May 27, 12, 3:58 pm   #12
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Having flown the main cabin A310 toward the back of the plane it is up to 33" seat pitch:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...nformation.php



And yes, years ago TS did have much tighter seat pitch but finally saw the light and reconfigured their fleet and pulled a few rows out and increased the room several years back. I also flew several times on the old L1011's and would agree that the seat experience uncomfortable when I flew TATL.
On the A330-200, seatguru shows the awful 3-3-3 with 16.5 inch seat width and 31 inch pitch, while the A330-300 has 2-4-2 seating 18 inch width with the 31 inch pitch. The narrow and cramped seating on the 3-3-3 configuration is about as bad as it gets. The 330 2-4-2 configuration and pitch matches what is standard on other airlines. So avoid the A330-200.
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So avoid the A330-200.
The A330-200 however makes up the bulk of the TS fleet with 8 aircraft while there are 4 of the A330-300 and 11 A310's.
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