Feb 21, 2017, 4:51 am
Last edit by: TravellerFrequently
Club Europe and EuroTraveller will be launched on UK domestic routes on 01 April 2017.
What does this mean for those of us with existing bookings for travel from April onwards?
Earning Avios and Tier Points
Spending Avios
What does this mean for those of us with existing bookings for travel from April onwards?
- If your ticket was booked into J, C, D, R, I, or U fare classes, you will travel in the CE cabin and will enjoy lounge access plus the usual fast track benefits and special meal options that come with CE.
- If your ticket was booked into the Y bucket, you will be rebooked for free into J (Club Europe) and the above benefits will apply. This should happen automatically well in advance of travel. If your ticket was not issued by BA, you should contact the issuing airline to make sure this change is properly processed.
- If your ticket was booked into B, H, K, M, L, V, N, Q, O, S, G fare classes, you will travel in the ET cabin and all elements of the airport and cabin experience will the same as before.
- If your ticket was booked into the X fare bucket (economy class redemption), then you will travel in the ET cabin above. However, if this was part of a longhaul club or first ticket, it may be possible to be rebooked for free into the U (Club Europe) bucket. You will have to call BA to accomplish this change.
Earning Avios and Tier Points
- Q, O, and G class will earn 125 Avios and 5 TP per sector (no change)
- K, L, M, N, S, and V class will earn 250 Avios and 10 TP per sector (no change)
- Y*, B, and H class will earn 500 Avios and 20 TP per sector (no change)
- R and I class will earn 750 Avios and 40 TP per sector
- J, C, and D class will earn 1250 Avios and 40 TP per sector.
Spending Avios
- X will be the redemption class for EuroTraveller
- U will be the redemption class for Club Europe
Club Europe to be introduced on UK domestic flights [launches 01 April 2017]
Nov 4, 2016, 8:30 am
#31
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I support this idea. If it works to JER (or BRU for that matter) it can work for the much longer segments. Though not a huge fan of Buy on Board, there is now an inner logic, Club Europe with catering, EuroTraveller is to be paid for. For those of us on connections it provides a choice, and an alternative to the Low Cost Carrier model. For those without status it provides a package of benefits, albeit at a cost. This is one change that some of us have lobbied BA for, and I suspect I may well use this option once implemented.
Cynically it gets around the issue of those travellers who can't expense g&t.
Cynically it gets around the issue of those travellers who can't expense g&t.
Nov 4, 2016, 8:53 am
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I thought the same thing.
Nov 4, 2016, 8:56 am
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Nov 4, 2016, 8:59 am
#37
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No, which is why my bank balance is rather healthy from the refunds for F trips with domestic connections I have recently cancelled.
Nov 4, 2016, 10:27 am
#38
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I've had a message that points out that buy on board will change the staffing dynamics quite significantly on domestics, which suggests the airline isn't suggesting huge demand for BoB on short sectors. And there isn't on easyJet domestics either, for that matter. Therefore it makes sense to standardise the European routes with the same staffing and delivery standard throughout. It also means CE passengers in the UK will primarily get their service via the SCCM.
Nov 4, 2016, 10:35 am
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Drinks are currently free on domestics (and breakfasts too), in my opinion it's unlikely that the next seat will be free, so the only difference will be a £5 salad plonked in front of you...but I'm sure there will be plenty of takers. Oh, and for those of you at the back of the airplane, stuff you.
As we all now know Willie wants to see your money, basically whether at the front or the back you'll all be paying more.
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Nov 4, 2016, 11:19 am
#40
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I am very pleased about Domestic CE. I never have to fly BA Y again. It does make sense and is hardly a coincidence with the BoB. Perfect for J and F connecting passengers.
Nov 4, 2016, 11:32 am
#41
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A CEO that wants customers to give money and also wishes that those same customers pay more than they used to? Whatever is this world coming to? The board should sack him immediately.
I am very pleased about Domestic CE. I never have to fly BA Y again. It does make sense and is hardly a coincidence with the BoB. Perfect for J and F connecting passengers.
I am very pleased about Domestic CE. I never have to fly BA Y again. It does make sense and is hardly a coincidence with the BoB. Perfect for J and F connecting passengers.
Nov 4, 2016, 1:59 pm
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Nov 4, 2016, 2:46 pm
#45
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I have to wonder if once domestic CE is introduced it will become an "optional extra" when making a LH CW/F booking. For non status passengers for their domestic legs there'll be lounge access at your domestic departure airport, free seat selection, "complimentary" food and drink on board..... all for, say £100 pp one way? All of which is included in the total price at the moment.
I may be a million miles off the mark however IMO the move to BoB, paid for meal selection in LH Y, on board WiFi, removal of lounge access to CE domestic connections, intensification of the 772s etc., etc., point to BA moving towards a model that squeezes much more out of each airframe than they currently do and central to this appears to be anything considered an added extra or complimentary will be charged for whenever possible.
With hindsight, paid for seat selection for non status CW bookings appears to have been the the very thin edge of a rather large wedge. BA clearly dipped their toe into the water regarding this and must have found they didn't lose any customers and gained a significant amount of extra revenue. They may feel that with this and maybe one or two other cleverly disguised trials then applying the same principle for more and more aspects we currently take for granted when flying with them will give them the results they want.
Last edited by GlasgowBlue; Nov 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm