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AA Transcontinental Three Class Service Airbus A321 "A321T"

NOTE: The "32B" designation is used by ICAO for A321 (-100 and -200) family with "Sharklet" wingtips; the use of "32B" by AA has been applied to "321T", the three class aircraft described here and used on transcon service, and for the "A321", the two class A321S used in "normal" service as well as the A321H ETOPS version used on West Coast-Hawai'i service. ("321" is used by AA to describe non-Sharklets equipped LUS A321s.)

A subset of A321-200 aircraft has a three class configuration (with First and Business with horizontal full flat seats, as well as Main Cabin Extra and Main Cabin) for use on transcontinental JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO flights. First delivery was N101NN, Fleet No. 783, 21 Nov 2013. Inaugural flights were AA118 Lv LAX 0700 Ar JFK 1530 Tue 7 Jan 2014 and AA133 Lv JFK 1545 Ar LAX 1925. SFO-LAX began 6 Mar 2014.

These aircraft, referred to as "A321T" or "321T", have 10F in 1 + 1 layout, 20J in 2 + 2, and 72Y in 3 + 3 configuration (MCE rows 11-16); coded "321T" (32B in timetables). F has Zodiac SICMA solo suite seats similar to 77W Business suites, J have B/E Aerospace Diamond Parallel horizontal lie flat seats; MCE and Main Cabin Recaro slimline seats. Pets have two small cabins flanking the aisle forward in F, called "Cuddle Class".

In Flight Entertainment is Audio-Video on Demand (AVOD), provided by Thales in its TopSeries system, with 15.4" touch screens offering "200 movies, 180 TV programs, more than 350 audio selections, up to 20 games, and 3-D moving maps" free in F and J, and $4.00 for most movies and TV in Y on an 8.9" touch screen. These are also controlled by universal remote controls. Bose QuietComfort headsets are provided in F and J; these are recovered by crew about an hour from your destination. (Unfortunately, the IFE system has turned out to be extremely unreliable; currently, do not expect to experience seamless AVOD on these aircraft. Some have reported successfully resetting by holding down "O" button over ten seconds on remote and the same procedure for the screen power on button.)

WiFi is provided by GoGo ATG-4 (cellular) service, and is not very fast. At seat power includes USB 5 VDC and universal 110 VAC outlets. The outlets are awkwardly placed by your head in J, in the seatback in front of you in coach.

Link to SeatGuru seat chart for AA A321T.


10 1st class seats by SICMA c/o business traveler.com


20 lie-flat Business Class seat pairs by B/E Aerospace


Business Class from the side


36 3 x 3 Recaro slimlines across MCE with enhanced seat pitch, IFE and


36 3 x 3 Recaro slimline Economy seats with seat-back IFE screens

First includes rows 1-5, and "Cuddle Class" pet cabins immediately in front of 1A and 1F. Business includes rows 6-10; MCE 11-16 have generous 35-37" pitch, Main Cabin 17-22" wide and 31-32" pitch.

In Main Cabin / Economy bulkhead row 11 has most legroom, but no window due to 3L and R doors and no underseat storage as there are no seats ahead of them.

Row 22 is the farthest aft and seats have limited recline.

Also note: Airbus A320 family - 156 inches (395 cm) outside width
Boeing 737 /757 - 148 inches (380 cm) outside diameter.

Older posts (2012, 2013, 2014) may be read in ARCHIVE: Airbus A321 Transcon / A321T / "32B" 3 class (consolidated 2012-2014).

Updated 2 Feb 2017 - JDiver





Which transcontinental AA flights are operated by A321-200 "A321T" three class aircraft?

All transcontinental non-stop flights scheduled
JFK <-> LAX

JFK<-> SFO
are operated by three class Airbus A321-200 "32B" (A321-200 with "Sharklets" wingtip devices.

No other regularly scheduled transcontinental non-stop flights (e.g. MIA-LAX, PHL-LAX or -SFO, etc.) use the three class A321-200 "A321T" - even if a "32B" might be used in the future, it will merely be a two class LAA A321-200 aircraft (with Sharklets).

The A321T has variously been on other shorter services for aircraft utilization purposes. They have flown:
  • JFK-BOS return
  • JFK-DCA return
  • LAX-SFO return
For further discussion on seats, service, etc. on three class A321T aircraft, please see:

Best Business / First seat on LAA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / "32B" (consolidated)

Best Economy / MCE seat on LAA transcon Airbus A321 / A321T / "32B" (consolidated)
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Old Jul 23, 12, 7:39 am   #1
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Airbus A321 Transcon / A321T / "32B" 3 class (master thread)

A321 3 class ships are dedicated to JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO service at this time; they have 10F in 1 + 1 layout, 20J in 2 + 2, 72Y in 3 + 3 configuration (MCE rows 11-16); coded "321T" (32B on timetables). (Bulkhead row 11 has most legroom, but no window due to 3L and R doors.) All seats with 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB powered jacks. All Airbus narrow bodies and new delivery 738s (no word on retrofits) to get 15.4" / 39 cm PTVs with up to 200 movies, 180 television programs, 350 audio and 20 games; 8.9 inch PTVs in coach with free and paid content.

N.B. AA seems to be miscoding the two class A321 as "32B" in some timetables and itineraries; see 2-class 321 / A321 (miscoded 32B) added to the schedule (June 2014)

First delivery N101NN, Fleet No. 783, 21 Nov 2013.

AA118 Lv LAX 0700 Ar JFK 1530 Tue 7 Jan 2014 and AA133 Lv JFK 1545 Ar LAX 1925. SFO-LAX begins 6 Mar 2014.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...132800106.html

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Old Jan 16, 15, 7:22 am   #2
  
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Flew the A321T in F on AA 2 LAX-JFK Yesterday. Upon boarding my seat (3F) the remote was not working properly (Kept flashing between the "Waiting for Content to Load" message and a few other screens). Tried resetting the IFE 3x before realizing that was not going to fix it-- only other open seat in F had the same problem.

On a hunch, I tried resetting the remote in the same fashion that you do with the TV (Holding down the middle "O" button for 10-20 seconds) and it actually DOES trigger a reset for the remote. Once the remote was fully restarted (All loading screens completed and went to a blank screen), I then reset the IFE one last time (Holding power on the TV for 10-20 seconds). Once the IFE fully reset the remote was functional. Viola!

Then in the Air the WiFi was not working (no gogoinflight hotspot). FA tried resetting 2-3x times without success. I asked if he could please ask the flight deck if there was anything they could try. He was hesitant (told me he had the only control) but did agree to ask. Came back and said the pilots were trying a few things and 5 mins later WiFi was up and running.

All of these technology issues were a bit frustrating but happy I was able to help solve them. F seat was nice, but a bit constricting.. I do think I actually prefer J on this bird.
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.. I do think I actually prefer J on this bird.
So interesting to see just how many people feel this way!
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So interesting to see just how many people feel this way!
oh J is so much better. for me it comes to skimping on the F seat materials. shell is cheap, seat padding is not where it should be as on the 77W i mean i sit in that seat JFK-SFO in winter for just as long as i do a TATL.

but i'm beating a dead horse on that point.

i was actually unhappy that for two trips to SF in the next two weeks i HAD to book F because it was a few hundred less than J for the flight times i needed.

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Old Jan 20, 15, 11:26 pm   #5
  
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Heya folks, this is a new one for me -- not sure if the right thread, but odd.

I booked LGA - ORF - JFK - LAX - JFK for myself + 1 in April; I snagged Row 11 (Window/Middle) for both 321T flights -- and I would always have booked a Window/Middle or Window/Aisle in any case, since the lady likes Windows and I know which side my bread is buttered on.

Today, in checking, I've been moved (potentially even on the LGA - ORF - JFK legs too but I care much less about those, now to JFK/LAX 12 B/C and LAX/JFK 13 B/C... and every seat looks TOTALLY blocked in MCE though "View Available Seat" looks totally open.

Is this a technical error related to my matching my (mostly defunct) Dividends Miles account though AA still shows me "Status: Executive Platinum" or something else? Do I call the EXP desk?

ETA: It's looking like my SWUs cleared on the return leg (even with the moved Econ seats for now) as I show two bookings, one in Q and one in C, but that's still sort of secondary to the shifting MCE seats I'd think...

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Old Jan 21, 15, 9:02 am   #6
  
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oh J is so much better. for me it comes to skimping on the F seat materials. shell is cheap, seat padding is not where it should be as on the 77W i mean i sit in that seat JFK-SFO in winter for just as long as i do a TATL.

but i'm beating a dead horse on that point.

i was actually unhappy that for two trips to SF in the next two weeks i HAD to book F because it was a few hundred less than J for the flight times i needed.
Well, I do think it bears repeating. I think your points are valid, for me it does come down to the privacy. I'm now pretty much on these flights only when coming back from Europe through JFK, I want to be able to sleep when I feel like it, not have to walk around or have people walk over me while I do so, etc etc. If I'm in 1A I have eaten (if I want to) within an hour of take off, then can sleep. Service is just slower and the cabin much more public in J.

I agree that, together with some improvements, we got some downgrades in this version of the seat, it's not quite the same as AA's Intl one. But there's a reason IMO why in general the Cirrus seat elicits comparison to lesser F products on TATL/TPAC carriers, which no one would do with the CO seat. If I'm on the 8:40am to JFK J would do just fine, when it's 6pm in New York and I just got back from Europe I really do appreciate the F product. To be honest, I am now at the point where on any flight where AA's J will do, so will VX or B6 F .... so that's what I'll book.
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Today's AA34 LAX-JFK and AA181 JFK-LAX are showing a 757 seat map, though still listed as operated by 32B. Does this mean an aircraft substitution? Is this common on this route?
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Today's AA34 LAX-JFK and AA181 JFK-LAX are showing a 757 seat map, though still listed as operated by 32B. Does this mean an aircraft substitution? Is this common on this route?
Not common but could be due to various factors such as out of place aircraft due to the NYC storm/weather, aircraft maintenance, etc. Or they could've outright up-gauged the aircraft to accommodate more pax due to NYC weather cancellations.
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I done this flight twice a month the past year... SFO - JFK - SFO , a few times SJC- LAX-JFK -LAX-SJC...

Why is the service on the LAX-JFK-LAX flights far superior to the JFK- SFO flights???

SFO seems to have angry old FA, while LAX has a far superior younger crew???
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I done this flight twice a month the past year... SFO - JFK - SFO , a few times SJC- LAX-JFK -LAX-SJC...

Why is the service on the LAX-JFK-LAX flights far superior to the JFK- SFO flights???

SFO seems to have angry old FA, while LAX has a far superior younger crew???
My SFO JFK flight yesterday (16) had great FAs in F. Took my nap shortly after takeoff, skipped lunch, had my ice cream sundae (was offered seconds), just really great service.
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I've flown the 321T in F twice. I booked quite late both times and did not have the pick of the cabin so I ended up in 3A. Now the cabin is empty for my upcoming flights. I've chosen row 2A. I didn't notice any advantages of the bulkhead and it was close to the galley of course. Is the FT consensus this is the best seat?

In terms of AA service, is there any difference between lunch and dinner service on this route? The same kind of service? I'm on AA32.
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in F JFK-SFO right now.

my 1030am flt (179) was cancelled. LUCKILY #177 (545pm) last night was also cancelled and departing at 1045am today (by the time we land, today's flt 177 will also have taken off--can an airline have two identical flt numbers in the air at the same time? will today's be slightly delayed as a result?).

on board and they catered breakfast instead of lunch--note the original flt i was on leaving 15mins earlier had lunch service. gah. breakfast sucks on the transcon which seriously is why i do not take it.

wonderful F flight attendant though...and i got the reno air amenity kit!

sidenote: when i gave my normal request to turn the damn heat down he noted a certain tail num where they cannot control the temp at all. but really--why is it so continually hot on these transon A321s and no other A321 i've ever been on?
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I done this flight twice a month the past year... SFO - JFK - SFO , a few times SJC- LAX-JFK -LAX-SJC...

Why is the service on the LAX-JFK-LAX flights far superior to the JFK- SFO flights???

SFO seems to have angry old FA, while LAX has a far superior younger crew???
I've had excellent service from SF-based crews on the SFO route. Maybe the NY-based crews are the grumpy ones
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No it's the SFO Crew that is old and Grumpy... I'm on this route way too often and the LAX and JFK crew is far superior to SFO.

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I've had excellent service from SF-based crews on the SFO route. Maybe the NY-based crews are the grumpy ones
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Any opinions on how the last row of F is on the A321T (seats 5A and 5F) -- are there any problems due to proximity with J lavatory and galley?
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