Standby for Shorter/All AA Routing?
Oct 15, 2014, 6:03 pm
#16
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I just came across this which is very helpful for my case (I just saw this so accidentally posted on the main AA forum)...
In practice, how does the standby work? In my case, I am trying to change YUL-LGA-MIA-PLS to YUL-MIA-PLS. If I get on the YUL-MIA leg, I will have to go on standby again for the MIA-PLS segment in MIA (earlier flight than my originally confirmed flight) rather than confirmed at YUL?
This is for same day standby rather than the same day confirmed change fee.
Thanks.
In practice, how does the standby work? In my case, I am trying to change YUL-LGA-MIA-PLS to YUL-MIA-PLS. If I get on the YUL-MIA leg, I will have to go on standby again for the MIA-PLS segment in MIA (earlier flight than my originally confirmed flight) rather than confirmed at YUL?
This is for same day standby rather than the same day confirmed change fee.
Thanks.
Oct 15, 2014, 6:10 pm
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Oct 15, 2014, 6:39 pm
#18
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To my understanding you are only allowed to standby for an earlier flight given that you keep your current routing
Oct 15, 2014, 7:20 pm
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Based on the wiki, this seems to be the relevant bit - but want to see how it applies to practice:
4.STANDBY IS PERMITTED FOR SAME DAY AA NONSTOP
AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHTS BETWEEN THE SAME
ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS PROVIDED THE
ROUTING IS APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED.
I am booked confirmed YUL-LGA-MIA-PLS all on the same day.
I would like to standby for YUL-MIA-PLS instead. How do I find if the routing is "applicable for the fare charged"?
Assuming it works and I can get on YUL-MIA, I am assuming I will need to standby for MIA-PLS only when I get to MIA?
Thanks!
4.STANDBY IS PERMITTED FOR SAME DAY AA NONSTOP
AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHTS BETWEEN THE SAME
ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS PROVIDED THE
ROUTING IS APPLICABLE FOR THE FARE CHARGED.
I am booked confirmed YUL-LGA-MIA-PLS all on the same day.
I would like to standby for YUL-MIA-PLS instead. How do I find if the routing is "applicable for the fare charged"?
Assuming it works and I can get on YUL-MIA, I am assuming I will need to standby for MIA-PLS only when I get to MIA?
Thanks!
If you are still connecting to the same MIA-PLS,then your seat should remain intact. If you want to get on an earlier MIA-PLS, that would also require standby. The standby list tiebreak is not request time, but check-in time, so whether you get put on the list before you leave YUL or only once you get to MIA shouldn't really matter.
Oct 15, 2014, 7:37 pm
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The OP is proposing to cut out an LGA connection and without even looking I'd bet that it's OK under their fare rules.
Generally, you can standby for a different routing only if the new routing is one that is a legal routing for your fare, like LAX-DFW-MIA in place of LAX-ORD-MIA. LAX-BOS-MIA is not a permitted routing for LAX-MIA, and thus you would not be permitted to standby for it in place of a connection at DFW or ORD.
Generally, you can standby for a different routing only if the new routing is one that is a legal routing for your fare, like LAX-DFW-MIA in place of LAX-ORD-MIA. LAX-BOS-MIA is not a permitted routing for LAX-MIA, and thus you would not be permitted to standby for it in place of a connection at DFW or ORD.
Oct 15, 2014, 8:44 pm
#21
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Can you add a segment for SDCC or standby, or does it only work when you're cutting out a segment?
Oct 15, 2014, 9:36 pm
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Dunno about SDCC, but you can certainly add a segment when standing by. Proof? The rules provide that you may standby for alternate nonstop or connecting itineraries. Can't standby for a connecting itinerary (on a nonstop ticket) if you can't add a segment. Only fly in the ointment might be that the agents screw up and leave you without a flight coupon for the added segment (someone posted that problem a while back).
Oct 17, 2014, 6:42 pm
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That'snot the case on AA.
It should be allowed unless explicitly excluded in the fare rules. Easiest way to check would be to call AA and ask.
If you are still connecting to the same MIA-PLS,then your seat should remain intact. If you want to get on an earlier MIA-PLS, that would also require standby. The standby list tiebreak is not request time, but check-in time, so whether you get put on the list before you leave YUL or only once you get to MIA shouldn't really matter.
It should be allowed unless explicitly excluded in the fare rules. Easiest way to check would be to call AA and ask.
If you are still connecting to the same MIA-PLS,then your seat should remain intact. If you want to get on an earlier MIA-PLS, that would also require standby. The standby list tiebreak is not request time, but check-in time, so whether you get put on the list before you leave YUL or only once you get to MIA shouldn't really matter.
Great news - everything worked well.
Turned up at YUL and requested for YUL-MIA-PLS instead of YUL-LGA-MIA-PLS.
Agent had to fiddle a lot (also wanted to charge $75 before I mentioned OW elite) but eventually asked us what seats we wanted, printed our BPs and put it in her file and told us to retrieve them 30 minutes before departure.
So eventually we did that and she even gave us our BPs at YUL (with confirmed seats) from MIA-PLS on the earlier 12pm flight - we were confirmed on the much later 6pm flight.
YUL-MIA was completely full but there were a handful of non-revs.
MIA-PLS I would say had some scattered empty seats.
So all in all it worked out very well! Hope this is useful.