JetBlue mint service coming to Seattle - reduced fares for Alaska (and Delta)?
Jul 18, 2017, 10:53 am
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B6 has two BOS-SEA turns daily, a midday arrival heading back for Boston at 1-ish and a late-night heading back east just before midnight.
Jul 18, 2017, 11:10 am
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Jul 18, 2017, 11:17 am
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Jul 18, 2017, 12:33 pm
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Why drop the price now when the competition has not moved in yet? Perhaps they want to see if it has any effect before dropping the price. When B6 increased service to Alaska, AS didn't automatically react but later on as they had a better idea of the impact, some flights had price drops to compete and some did not.
Jul 18, 2017, 2:14 pm
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Why drop the price now when the competition has not moved in yet? Perhaps they want to see if it has any effect before dropping the price. When B6 increased service to Alaska, AS didn't automatically react but later on as they had a better idea of the impact, some flights had price drops to compete and some did not.
Jul 18, 2017, 4:25 pm
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I'm just giving you input on how AS operates. Whether it's Mint or not its still relevant to the issue at hand.
Jul 18, 2017, 4:50 pm
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Jul 18, 2017, 5:26 pm
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Also worth considering that JetBlue's expectation is to maintain its "home" feed from the east coast while poaching just a couple folks on the west coast in a way that helps grow the business. No one expects JetBlue to be the default carrier for premium cabin travelers based on the west coast, especially not in a city that is a competitor's hub. Premium is about both comfort and convenience and the limited JetBlue schedule for other routes means that someone living in SEA isn't going to wholesale switch to JetBlue once Mint is introduced.
But for a similar price why not try out the fancy new product and see what it is like. Especially if you're already flying so many transcons in the paid premium cabin that requalification is easy. :-:
But for a similar price why not try out the fancy new product and see what it is like. Especially if you're already flying so many transcons in the paid premium cabin that requalification is easy. :-:
Jul 18, 2017, 6:31 pm
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Jul 18, 2017, 6:35 pm
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On BOS-SAN after B6 enters, AS J seats will be $1 less O/W and they are at lower frequency than B6.
On BOS-SEA after B6 enters, DL J seats are at $441, B6 at $549 and AS at $706 at the moment. I'm sure some AS loyalists will keep paying premium, but that's just not a competitive price for free agents and anyone outside of Seattle.
VX insane pricing will be going away at some point (codeshare have always priced wierdly high). AS operated F is typically under $1000 even last minute. For instance BOS-SAN the next few days are sold out and next seat for sale on in F is $750. BOS-SEA is also sold out a few days and about $960 last minute.
I think JFK-SEA will look a lot like BOS-SFO by this time near year and AS better start selling their J seats at under $600 or those business will be migrating over to DL/B6.
Jul 18, 2017, 7:26 pm
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You may have missed the corporate presentation. They aren't going for the premium market. They want to be like Southwest but with a chance of an upgrade for the regular folks.
Jul 22, 2017, 10:32 am
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B6 TrueBlue is point based, and actual points earned vary, according to fare paid. They have some reciprocals, but nothing like the variety offered by MP. Given their East Coast focus, a lot of transcon services require overnight flying, for purposes of aircraft utilization. They try to mitigate some of that by running linear North/South flights on the West Coast, to and from LGB. If history is any guide, the fare situation will be the reverse of what people are speculating. They will use Alaska's aggressive high fares to price up, not down, following the introductory phase. JetBlue is often the most expensive, especially in Holiday periods, and thanks to their exposure to East Coast hubs, and that region's propensity for foul weather, they are always late.
Jul 22, 2017, 10:29 pm
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JetBlue is often expensive, but they also offer the best product.
In Economy they have the most legroom for standard Economy, free TVs, free Internet (which is fast) and unlimited self-service snacks. If you take points off the table, and all things being equal, there's no reason to choose anyone else.
Mint vs. Domestic F is another night and day comparison with the seat comfort alone. The only thing the other guys have on JetBlue is maybe a lounge.
In Economy they have the most legroom for standard Economy, free TVs, free Internet (which is fast) and unlimited self-service snacks. If you take points off the table, and all things being equal, there's no reason to choose anyone else.
Mint vs. Domestic F is another night and day comparison with the seat comfort alone. The only thing the other guys have on JetBlue is maybe a lounge.
Jul 23, 2017, 8:38 am
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Which again is a recipe for losing money on premium transcons. There is a reason WN has no non stops in the premium transcon markets. They would not make any money. So if they are trying to be like WN for these markets, guess the plan is either to lose money or to eventually abandon those routes.
Jul 23, 2017, 10:23 am
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Which again is a recipe for losing money on premium transcons. There is a reason WN has no non stops in the premium transcon markets. They would not make any money. So if they are trying to be like WN for these markets, guess the plan is either to lose money or to eventually abandon those routes.
