Rollover 2016 miles into 2017 for elite status (email from Alaska Air)
#46
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 917
But you never *had* rollover, so how can your time on AS post-qualification be worth less now than it was a week ago? You, personally, have lost nothing.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 331
In theory they'd be targeting people who had less slop, and who qualified fairly early. Those with a lot of slop - they're doing exactly what AS wants, so why give them a bonus for continuing to do the same thing? It's the ones who qualified early and then (apparently) started flying another carrier with AS status secured who they'd want to woo with a bonus.
#48
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, AS 75k, AA Plat, Bonvoyed Gold, Honors Dia, Hyatt Explorer, IHG Plat, ...
Posts: 16,854
It's certainly Alaska's right to not treat every customer equally, but it's my right to feel unhappy about it and gripe about it on FT
I guess what I am saying is that I like predictable documented benefits, not random giveaways/promos with no discernible selection criteria. Imagine they used a "targeted promotion" approach for F upgrades, instead of status-level based upgrade windows....
#49
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: JNU
Programs: HH D, AS MM/MVPG for life/AL, Awesome Wipes VIP Club, NEXUS, Hertz 5-Star Gold
Posts: 2,893
#50
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: AS Million Miler, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Nexus / Global Entry
Posts: 844
I think the "cushion" theory is correct.
I make MVPG every year with a nice cushion. No rollover email for me.
90% AS metal typically.
I make MVPG every year with a nice cushion. No rollover email for me.
90% AS metal typically.
Last edited by sea_jeff; Feb 9, 2016 at 7:11 pm
#51
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
missydarlin, with your inside track is there any possibility AS will send out a second wave of eligibility somewhere between now and the end of the year? We currently have our 40,000 booked up for 2016, and if any unexpected trips need to be booked I don't want to book them somewhere that can't be changed to the AS mileage plan. But if there is no hope I'll book wherever I can get the best price.
#53
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR, HNL
Programs: AS 75k, UA peon, BA Bronze, AC E50k, Marriott Plat, HH Diamond, Fairmont Plat (RIP)
Posts: 7,832
So this seems to have died a quiet death. I am still fairly peeved at no getting this email as I typically have a bunch of excess miles every year that I feel are 'wasted' as I can't use them for status. Any new insight as to if AS will do the right thing and extend this to all their elites and not just the select few that were targeted?
#54
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold
Posts: 917
So this seems to have died a quiet death. I am still fairly peeved at no getting this email as I typically have a bunch of excess miles every year that I feel are 'wasted' as I can't use them for status. Any new insight as to if AS will do the right thing and extend this to all their elites and not just the select few that were targeted?
#55
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
Last year they had few if any DEQM promotions at all that I recall (as opposed to 2014 when there were a ton). This would be a nice way to give those of us who made the grade anyway in 2015 a nice little boost into 2017 without giving away the store to just anyone.
#56
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR, HNL
Programs: AS 75k, UA peon, BA Bronze, AC E50k, Marriott Plat, HH Diamond, Fairmont Plat (RIP)
Posts: 7,832
How is it doing the right thing by giving a fairly valuable perk to only a chosen few of your elite members? Giving perks to those who have earned a level of status and not to those who haven't is one thing. But to give a perk to a segment of your best customers who are otherwise equal in status is divisive and does nothing but foster ill will in those who were not offered it. Not a smart move in my books.
#57
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
I'm really torn about this whole issue.
I think a company has a right do whatever it wants.
If the OP had never spilled the beans, most of us would have no idea this possibility existed.
But ...my strongest feeling is that I agree with Finkface...some elites are more elite than others?
I'm equating it to the ubiquitous bonus programs hotels have to lure and keep their best customers - double bonus points here, free night there, usually open to all who belong to their programs.
It would be nice to at least know why those chosen were targeted so as to better position ourselves for the next offer.
I think a company has a right do whatever it wants.
If the OP had never spilled the beans, most of us would have no idea this possibility existed.
But ...my strongest feeling is that I agree with Finkface...some elites are more elite than others?
I'm equating it to the ubiquitous bonus programs hotels have to lure and keep their best customers - double bonus points here, free night there, usually open to all who belong to their programs.
It would be nice to at least know why those chosen were targeted so as to better position ourselves for the next offer.
#58
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP , Delta Gold Medallion, "Credit Card" status for various hotels
Posts: 672
They probably targeted people randomly. This may be their way of field testing this as a benefit that would be expanded to all members in the future if successful.
However, I hope this isn't successful if this benefit means taking away other elite perks or adding extra hurdles to reach elite status.
As much as I wish I were targeted for this, I am happy that Alaska already has what I consider to be the most rewarding ff program - at least based on my flying habits.
However, I hope this isn't successful if this benefit means taking away other elite perks or adding extra hurdles to reach elite status.
As much as I wish I were targeted for this, I am happy that Alaska already has what I consider to be the most rewarding ff program - at least based on my flying habits.
#59
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I have the right not to like it and take it into consideration in my choice of travel providers
AS explains this on the promo page as follows:
"Here’s another reason to choose Alaska for all your 2016 flying – the trips you take this year can help you hold on to your elite status and benefits even longer."
I guess being not selected thus means I don't have another reason to choose Alaska (I might still if it's otherwise beneficial to me, of course).
As I said above, in this day and age you really can't make such an offer to a subset of your customer base and not expect others to become aware of it. We may certainly be just a small fraction of AS customers here on FT, but some blogs have, of course, picked it up (probably from here), too.
If it's a trial (likely, IMO), I would hope that it is successful. No reason to assume that it will come at a cost (removal of other benefits) vs just being a competitive thing compared to the one other airline that has this benefit... Delta.
#60
Join Date: Sep 2012
Programs: AS Gold 75k, HH Diamond
Posts: 20
As a 75K for the last 3 years, I hate this idea. I don't hit my 75K until December typically. I am concerned that, with this option, that there will be more 75Ks in 2017, which will make upgrades more difficult. I don't know this will be a fact, but logic would tell you that if certain chosen people start Jan 1, with 10k miles toward EQ they might be more inclined to push for a higher tier in 2017. Hell who knows, with the pending economy plus and less 1st seats, 75K's might not even be getting upgraded to F in 2017.
Maybe it's time to get out of the travel game, I don't think the perks are going to make it worth it soon.
Maybe it's time to get out of the travel game, I don't think the perks are going to make it worth it soon.