Using airpoints to upgrade from cash paid fare class- airpoints & upgrade?
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Using airpoints to upgrade from cash paid fare class- airpoints & upgrade?
Hi there
I am flying to Shanghai later this year, booked in Y and have a silver comp upgrade to use.
Hence, I am thinking of upgrading my Y ticket to PE by paying the $620 fare difference with airpoints and then using my silver comp to business, giving me a Y-BP upgrade with guaranteed PE for 620 airpoints.
My question is whether my ticket would still earn miles once upgraded to PE or would it become a "rewards ticket" booking class and I'm left with nothing to credit to my TK account?
Alternatively, does the PE booking class become void for comp upgrades if the fare class upgrade to silver is paid for with airpoints?
Has anyone ever tried this upgrade route before?
It's important that I credit some miles to my TK*G account to maintain gold (i'd swap back to my TK FF in the lounge once upgrades have cleared).
Cheers in advance for any advice
I am flying to Shanghai later this year, booked in Y and have a silver comp upgrade to use.
Hence, I am thinking of upgrading my Y ticket to PE by paying the $620 fare difference with airpoints and then using my silver comp to business, giving me a Y-BP upgrade with guaranteed PE for 620 airpoints.
My question is whether my ticket would still earn miles once upgraded to PE or would it become a "rewards ticket" booking class and I'm left with nothing to credit to my TK account?
Alternatively, does the PE booking class become void for comp upgrades if the fare class upgrade to silver is paid for with airpoints?
Has anyone ever tried this upgrade route before?
It's important that I credit some miles to my TK*G account to maintain gold (i'd swap back to my TK FF in the lounge once upgrades have cleared).
Cheers in advance for any advice
#2
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
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You cannot buy up to PE using Airpoints. This can only be done by cash. Once you pay the fare difference, your ticket will be re-issued and you will be in a paid PE fare, earning PE mileage. You can then use your Silver upgrade to Business. If successful, you will still earn mileage at the PE rate. Note if your upgrade is cleared, they will re-book you to Business booking class R which is an ineligible class to earn partner miles. If your flight doesn't credit automatically, as it often doesn't in this case, you may have to ask TK to credit it retrospectively with some convincing to do.
#4
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#5
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Although travel agents have their place, I try to avoid them as it's too painful trying to change things to suit my plans via them. Easier to cut out the middle man and go straight to the people that know. Plus I've been stuffed around with their "24-7" NONavailability to help. Someone is always at NZ to help!
For Timb777
You can only use airpoints to pay for an upgrade if elite, otherwise it's the one up system which can be variable as to when you find out IF you were successful. You could use your RU to get to PE and apply for one up bid to go from PE to BP.
I can't tell you about success rates of your RU clearing or one up bids on your route though.
Long haul if you're adamant you want a bit more comfort than economy, paying cash is still the safest way to guarantee.
So whatever class you've paid up to eg econ or PE, you will earn your TK points for that. However I don't know the actual fare buckets that might be excluded from earning, might be on the NZ website?
Last edited by NZbutterfly; Jun 27, 2015 at 12:55 am Reason: Info for timb777
#6
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It's like saying if I bought a PE ticket I will be guaranteed to sit in the PE cabin.
#7
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Once you use any of the above methods to request an upgrade the option to upgrade is no longer available for the flight, so you couldn't retrospectively go back and upgrade it further by using a recognition upgrade, then requesting a One-Up. Also, a silver RU wouldn't post until a couple of days before the flight as well, so you'd be too late for a One-Up
#8
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Unless I'm mis-interpreting this statement, you're not quite correct there - you can only use one or two RU(s) or an Elite APD Upgrade or a One-Up, but only one of these, so the only way to go two classes up is a double recognition upgrade (if you're gold or elite) on the long haul routes.
Once you use any of the above methods to request an upgrade the option to upgrade is no longer available for the flight, so you couldn't retrospectively go back and upgrade it further by using a recognition upgrade, then requesting a One-Up. Also, a silver RU wouldn't post until a couple of days before the flight as well, so you'd be too late for a One-Up
Once you use any of the above methods to request an upgrade the option to upgrade is no longer available for the flight, so you couldn't retrospectively go back and upgrade it further by using a recognition upgrade, then requesting a One-Up. Also, a silver RU wouldn't post until a couple of days before the flight as well, so you'd be too late for a One-Up
#9
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Unless I'm mis-interpreting this statement, you're not quite correct there - you can only use one or two RU(s) or an Elite APD Upgrade or a One-Up, but only one of these, so the only way to go two classes up is a double recognition upgrade (if you're gold or elite) on the long haul routes.
Once you use any of the above methods to request an upgrade the option to upgrade is no longer available for the flight, so you couldn't retrospectively go back and upgrade it further by using a recognition upgrade, then requesting a One-Up. Also, a silver RU wouldn't post until a couple of days before the flight as well, so you'd be too late for a One-Up
Once you use any of the above methods to request an upgrade the option to upgrade is no longer available for the flight, so you couldn't retrospectively go back and upgrade it further by using a recognition upgrade, then requesting a One-Up. Also, a silver RU wouldn't post until a couple of days before the flight as well, so you'd be too late for a One-Up
#10
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: AKL
Posts: 446
Sbiddle is right in that you need to go via the travel agent to make changes prior to your first flight, BUT if you have more than one flight on your ticket, once you have taken the first flight you can then call air NZ to pay the fare difference to upgrade, eg the return leg of your trip or if you're stopping over somewhere you can upgrade the next flight via NZ call centre. You just need to take that first flight - then NZ can manage it
Although travel agents have their place, I try to avoid them as it's too painful trying to change things to suit my plans via them. Easier to cut out the middle man and go straight to the people that know. Plus I've been stuffed around with their "24-7" NONavailability to help. Someone is always at NZ to help!
Although travel agents have their place, I try to avoid them as it's too painful trying to change things to suit my plans via them. Easier to cut out the middle man and go straight to the people that know. Plus I've been stuffed around with their "24-7" NONavailability to help. Someone is always at NZ to help!
#12
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I don't really understand the argument here.
#13
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Why would anyone do it? Bidding the amount near fare difference on a Oneup gives you no upgrade guarantee and you earn Airpoints based on the original ticket. Paying fare difference to rebook into the higher cabin will guarantee you in the higher cabin and you earn Airpoints based on the higher cabin rate.
I don't really understand the argument here.
I don't really understand the argument here.
Now that NZButterfly has informed that it may be possible to change through AirNZ call centre after the first sector has been flown, I'll give that a try next time.