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Old Sep 13, 2016, 3:22 pm
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I was connecting on DL from T2 to T4 last week, and nobody checked my boarding pass when I took the jitney.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 3:31 pm
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Nobody asked me for a BP either. I had asked for how best to get to AF and was told to take the jitney.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I just got off a DL flight and reading the in-flight magazine I was reminded that I did not bother with the Skytrain, nor should most people making such a connection. They have a jitney leaving from a couple of points between T4 and T2. So take that, then make the 1 minute walk between T2 and T1 and see the excellent staff at La Premiere check in.
You are correct, but what's the advantage doing this compared to taking directly the Air Train from T4 to T1. Travel time will be similar and in both cases you are outside security and need to re-clear it in T1.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by SkyteamEP
I was connecting on DL from T2 to T4 last week, and nobody checked my boarding pass when I took the jitney.
Yes, they don't care at all.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
You are correct, but what's the advantage doing this compared to taking directly the Air Train from T4 to T1. Travel time will be similar and in both cases you are outside security and need to re-clear it in T1.
It depends on your DL arrival gate. If it's near the end of the spoke, you will save a LOT of time and walking by taking the jitney. That was my case.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by stimpy
It depends on your DL arrival gate. If it's near the end of the spoke, you will save a LOT of time and walking by taking the jitney.
Thank you, good to know
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 6:55 pm
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Might as well post this...


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Old Sep 13, 2016, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
Won't happen. The operating carrier needs to be part of the TSAPre programme.
It has happened, as reported in the DL forum in the earlier days of Pre-√. When your first flight is DL operated and DL issues boarding passes for your codeshare flight, the DL issued boarding pass for the non-DL operated flight can have a Pre-√ designation on it.

Originally Posted by Goldorak
You are correct, but what's the advantage doing this compared to taking directly the Air Train from T4 to T1. Travel time will be similar and in both cases you are outside security and need to re-clear it in T1.
The advantage of the AirTrain route is that if the weather is bad it is completely indoors (T4 to T1).
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by bennos
It has happened, as reported in the DL forum in the earlier days of Pre-√. When your first flight is DL operated and DL issues boarding passes for your codeshare flight, the DL issued boarding pass for the non-DL operated flight can have a Pre-√ designation on it.
Yes, that actually happened to me on this trip we are talking about here. My first flight was DL and DL printed out the AF connecting flight. Both showed PreCheck. Not that it mattered with the escort.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by bennos
The advantage of the AirTrain route is that if the weather is bad it is completely indoors (T4 to T1).
Very true
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
You are correct, but what's the advantage doing this compared to taking directly the Air Train from T4 to T1. Travel time will be similar and in both cases you are outside security and need to re-clear it in T1.
I honestly do not think that there is a general advantage, but maybe the more important point is that I do not think that there is a particular disadvantage either! Personally, if connecting between two flights, at least one of which is long haul, if the weather is not too bad, I really enjoy getting a bit of fresh air. In fact, I keep wishing there were a similar outdoor walking path between T7 and T8 for my AA-BA connections but unfortunately, there the airtrain is the only option. If people prefer not to walk, however, the T4-T1 airtrain is of course perfectly fine as well.
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by bennos
It has happened, as reported in the DL forum in the earlier days of Pre-√. When your first flight is DL operated and DL issues boarding passes for your codeshare flight, the DL issued boarding pass for the non-DL operated flight can have a Pre-√ designation on it.
Originally Posted by stimpy
Yes, that actually happened to me on this trip we are talking about here. My first flight was DL and DL printed out the AF connecting flight. Both showed PreCheck. Not that it mattered with the escort.
Interesting. Having followed the discussions in the LH forum on the "analogy" i.e. UA-LH connections with UA flight numbers I got the impression that this wouldn't work when the foreign carrier is not participating in TSAPre.

Good to know that it seems to be otherwise.

I presume there will be a dedicated TSAPre lane at JFK T1 now that Lufthansa does participate in the program. Won't make any difference for Premiere passengers, but for those on the DL-AF connections that have TSAPre also for the Air France longhaul connection this is neat.
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
Interesting. Having followed the discussions in the LH forum on the "analogy" i.e. UA-LH connections with UA flight numbers I got the impression that this wouldn't work when the foreign carrier is not participating in TSAPre.

Good to know that it seems to be otherwise.
I would not assume that there is anything official about this. In fact it is probably an IT "error" that allows it to happen. And maybe it won't work on every ticket at every US airport.
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Old Sep 15, 2016, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
Yes, from T4 to T1. The good thing is that you'll get the escort through security at T1. This security check-point in JFK1 is the worst I know in the US. Always crowded and super-messy. And the priority lane is a complete joke (true at most US airports, but this one beats the record).
To my knowledge, I think that P passengers are escorted through security at JFK T1.
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Old Sep 16, 2016, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by olivedel
To my knowledge, I think that P passengers are escorted through security at JFK T1.
yes, they are.
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