Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
Please list your AP Taxes and SURCHARGES on AP reward tickets
Aug 20, 2014, 9:22 pm
#1786
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*E50, AE dBlack, Club Carlson Concierge, NEXUS
Posts: 73
Just booked earlier today - first big Aeroplan award!
Depart late April 2015, return early May 2015.
AC YYZ-ORD J E75
UA ORD-NRT J 744
UA KIX-SFO J 788
AC SFO-YYZ J 321
150,000 miles, and only $144.36 in surcharges.
Depart late April 2015, return early May 2015.
AC YYZ-ORD J E75
UA ORD-NRT J 744
UA KIX-SFO J 788
AC SFO-YYZ J 321
150,000 miles, and only $144.36 in surcharges.
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $12.40
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $15.60
U.S Agriculture Fee $11.20
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $12.60
Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (intl) $3.40
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $30.00
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.00
Total per passenger
$144.36
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $12.40
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $15.60
U.S Agriculture Fee $11.20
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $12.60
Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (intl) $3.40
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $30.00
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.00
Total per passenger
$144.36
Aug 20, 2014, 10:00 pm
#1787
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Just booked earlier today - first big Aeroplan award!
Depart late April 2015, return early May 2015.
AC YYZ-ORD J E75
UA ORD-NRT J 744
UA KIX-SFO J 788
AC SFO-YYZ J 321
150,000 miles, and only $144.36 in surcharges.
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $12.40
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $15.60
U.S Agriculture Fee $11.20
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $12.60
Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (intl) $3.40
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $30.00
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.00
Total per passenger
$144.36
Depart late April 2015, return early May 2015.
AC YYZ-ORD J E75
UA ORD-NRT J 744
UA KIX-SFO J 788
AC SFO-YYZ J 321
150,000 miles, and only $144.36 in surcharges.
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
U.S. Customs User Fee $12.40
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $15.60
U.S Agriculture Fee $11.20
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $12.60
Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (intl) $3.40
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge $30.00
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.00
Total per passenger
$144.36
where my simple YYZ-TPE on BR, TPE-LAX on BR, AC LAX-YYZ has a $40 YQ
So weird
Aug 21, 2014, 8:10 am
#1788
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*E50, AE dBlack, Club Carlson Concierge, NEXUS
Posts: 73
My honest suspicion is since both of the AC flights are codeshared with UA, that it's UA who provided the ticket and thus, no YQ. But I'm new here, so don't quote me on that.
I'll take the happy fluke.
I'll take the happy fluke.
Aug 22, 2014, 12:17 pm
#1789
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K
Posts: 2,927
Booked 2 seats for next year summer vacation
LO YYZ-WAW J 788
TK WAW-IST J 321
TK IST-YUL J 330
210K miles, plus $90 change fee. Might try to get YUL-MUC in F one week out.
LO YYZ-WAW J 788
TK WAW-IST J 321
TK IST-YUL J 330
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Poland Passenger Service Charge $0.30
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Turkey International Airport Service Charge $16.80
Poland Domestic&International Airport Tax $22.10
Fuel Surcharge $67.10
Total per passenger $160.46
Poland Passenger Service Charge $0.30
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Turkey International Airport Service Charge $16.80
Poland Domestic&International Airport Tax $22.10
Fuel Surcharge $67.10
Total per passenger $160.46
Last edited by Admiral Ackbar; Aug 22, 2014 at 12:31 pm
Aug 22, 2014, 12:24 pm
#1790
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
Nice, its too bad that AC/LH feel the need to gouache TATL customers with YQ... instead of covering their costs like LO, they try and make money off of people on supposedly free tickets. Although YQ free is the way to go I could certainly tolerate a 67$ fee on such a trip (especially on an 87 route)
Aug 22, 2014, 12:44 pm
#1791
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,305
There is no such thing as codeshares on awards.
Also UA cannot provide a ticket when using Aeroplan points.
All tickets are issued by Air Canada, who also keeps any surcharges thet collect, except actual govt taxes.
Aug 23, 2014, 7:41 pm
#1792
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AC Million Miler & long time SE; StarwoodPlat for 10+ yrs & lifetime Gold; Hilton Honours Diamond; IC Ambassador; AMEX Plat;Avis Presidents Club; Airmiles GOLD; and just about everything else!
Programs: aeroplan & 25+year loyalty
Posts: 3,822
AE J Class FEES ETC OUTRAGEOUS
I am on the floor.. the fees for me to redeem 90K for a "free" ticket to LHR are over $1,200. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS and damn near the price of a Tango ticket.
I checked fees for a Y ticket and they are about half, and also 1/3 of the miles right now. Hello. what is wrong with this picture?
This is not the deal I signed up for and have given thousands and thousands of my dollars for. UAL charges virtually no fees in comparison but I cannot get a J ticket out of them for my October dates.
I have been more than a good loyal customer with AC and I am closing in on the 2 Milllion Mile mark and a SE as long as I can remember. I hope some sense will come to the brain trust at AC/AE as this is nothing but a major revenue grab.
As A result I have just purchased a J fare to China but on another airline also at a fraction of ACs lowest fare. Sorry my loyal airline but you have shafted me and devalued my 1.4 million miles.
I checked fees for a Y ticket and they are about half, and also 1/3 of the miles right now. Hello. what is wrong with this picture?
This is not the deal I signed up for and have given thousands and thousands of my dollars for. UAL charges virtually no fees in comparison but I cannot get a J ticket out of them for my October dates.
I have been more than a good loyal customer with AC and I am closing in on the 2 Milllion Mile mark and a SE as long as I can remember. I hope some sense will come to the brain trust at AC/AE as this is nothing but a major revenue grab.
As A result I have just purchased a J fare to China but on another airline also at a fraction of ACs lowest fare. Sorry my loyal airline but you have shafted me and devalued my 1.4 million miles.
Aug 23, 2014, 9:56 pm
#1795
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AC Million Miler & long time SE; StarwoodPlat for 10+ yrs & lifetime Gold; Hilton Honours Diamond; IC Ambassador; AMEX Plat;Avis Presidents Club; Airmiles GOLD; and just about everything else!
Programs: aeroplan & 25+year loyalty
Posts: 3,822
Not like has it been.....I first noticed it in May when booking a ticket to CDG via BRU, fees were over $1200 and I blamed that on Brussels Airlines, but this flight I am looking at is pure AC. For a while fees were as high as $700, but now almost double that.
OUTRAGEOUS. Aeroplan is dead and the funeral should be soon.
OUTRAGEOUS. Aeroplan is dead and the funeral should be soon.
Aug 23, 2014, 10:54 pm
#1797
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
Not like has it been.....I first noticed it in May when booking a ticket to CDG via BRU, fees were over $1200 and I blamed that on Brussels Airlines, but this flight I am looking at is pure AC. For a while fees were as high as $700, but now almost double that.
OUTRAGEOUS. Aeroplan is dead and the funeral should be soon.
OUTRAGEOUS. Aeroplan is dead and the funeral should be soon.
Also the reason nobody from AE/AIMIA will come onto FT.
Aug 23, 2014, 11:05 pm
#1799
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
Should be lots of premium TK awards ex-YUL with the new route starting out. From the west coast, SFO is easy to get. Not sure if they're starting to fly ex-YVR this year or next but that will be a source of good J to Europe (and Asia/Africa) via IST.
Aug 27, 2014, 7:59 pm
#1800
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,728
Just as a sample, the following are all taken from the same dates and flights, April 13 and 20, 2015.
BOOKING WITH AEROPLAN POINTS
YYZ-LHR return, economy, $732 in misc fees.
YYZ-LHR return, business, $1245 in misc fees.
BOOKING WITH CASH
YYZ-LHR return, economy, $271 in misc fees, total cost $882
YYZ-LHR return, business, $403 in misc fees, total cost $5186
So basically, your 60,000 AP points are worth $150 in Economy, or about 0.25 cents per point against the cash fare.
In business, even with the surcharge, 90,000 AP points are worth about 4.4 cents per point against the cash fare.
Obviously varies by dates and routes, but you get the idea.
BOOKING WITH AEROPLAN POINTS
YYZ-LHR return, economy, $732 in misc fees.
YYZ-LHR return, business, $1245 in misc fees.
BOOKING WITH CASH
YYZ-LHR return, economy, $271 in misc fees, total cost $882
YYZ-LHR return, business, $403 in misc fees, total cost $5186
So basically, your 60,000 AP points are worth $150 in Economy, or about 0.25 cents per point against the cash fare.
In business, even with the surcharge, 90,000 AP points are worth about 4.4 cents per point against the cash fare.
Obviously varies by dates and routes, but you get the idea.