What destinations outside of Canada/USA will AC send 737's?
Sep 21, 2015, 8:49 pm
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What destinations outside of Canada/USA will AC send 737's?
BS alluded to the 73's heading out on longer missions.
Where ya think they are going?!
Where ya think they are going?!
Sep 21, 2015, 9:08 pm
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Here's a few no-brainers...
- YYT and maybe YHZ to LHR (may be too much lobster freight from YHZ)
- YYZ-MEX
- YYZ- northern South America (Bogota, Caracas if Venezuela gets its house in order)
- YYZ-BGI and any non-rouged destination in the Caribbean
- YYZ-BDA
- YVR and possibly YYC to some destinations in Hawaii
Sep 21, 2015, 9:38 pm
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YVR/YYC-PTY/SJO/LIR
YVR-HAV
YYZ-ANC
YYZ-LIM
YVR-CUN
YYC/YVR-Carribean
None of these routes scream for a 767 capacity-wise (ie: not particularly high yield), but they're not really easily do-able with the 319 (which gets sketchy over 2600 miles, as seen in AC's YYZ-POS operation before they cancelled it, or even the plethora of winter diversions on YUL-SFO).
YVR-HAV simply to connect the Asia network to HAV. I think this one is pretty obvious.
edit: YYZ-LIM might be pushing it a bit much...
YVR-HAV
YYZ-ANC
YYZ-LIM
YVR-CUN
YYC/YVR-Carribean
None of these routes scream for a 767 capacity-wise (ie: not particularly high yield), but they're not really easily do-able with the 319 (which gets sketchy over 2600 miles, as seen in AC's YYZ-POS operation before they cancelled it, or even the plethora of winter diversions on YUL-SFO).
YVR-HAV simply to connect the Asia network to HAV. I think this one is pretty obvious.
edit: YYZ-LIM might be pushing it a bit much...
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Sep 21, 2015, 9:52 pm
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This is probably a bit too far. Boeing claims range of up to 3515 nautical miles (4040 statute miles) for the 737MAX-8. YYZ-LIM is 3836 miles, so technically flyable - but that ignores safety factor, headwinds, weather avoidance, aircraft variability, etc.
If AC tried the plane on the route it would be severely weight restricted and likely prone to technical stops.
If AC tried the plane on the route it would be severely weight restricted and likely prone to technical stops.
Sep 21, 2015, 9:59 pm
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This is probably a bit too far. Boeing claims range of up to 3515 nautical miles (4040 statute miles) for the 737MAX-8. YYZ-LIM is 3836 miles, so technically flyable - but that ignores safety factor, headwinds, weather avoidance, aircraft variability, etc.
If AC tried the plane on the route it would be severely weight restricted and likely prone to technical stops.
If AC tried the plane on the route it would be severely weight restricted and likely prone to technical stops.
Sep 22, 2015, 10:05 pm
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Sep 22, 2015, 10:42 pm
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This is not a pretty thought. Replacing 319s where they currently go, fine.
But I don't want to sit on a 737 for six hours on BOG-YYZ or YYC-OGG. Too long a flight to have a domestic J product.
But I don't want to sit on a 737 for six hours on BOG-YYZ or YYC-OGG. Too long a flight to have a domestic J product.
Sep 23, 2015, 2:07 pm
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But yeah the number of aircraft ordered doesn't seem to indicate much room for major expansion. So a few opportunistic narrow-body long-hauls, but probably not much else. Biggest 'change' will be fewer tech stops in those winter months where the jetstream is particularly nasty.
Sep 23, 2015, 3:38 pm
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"Some" airlines have 3-class cabin with proper F on their 737s, while AC is going with domestic recliners?
http://thedesignair.net/2013/10/30/t...lar-737-cabin/
http://thedesignair.net/2013/10/30/t...lar-737-cabin/
Sep 23, 2015, 4:05 pm
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"Some" airlines have 3-class cabin with proper F on their 737s, while AC is going with domestic recliners?
http://thedesignair.net/2013/10/30/t...lar-737-cabin/
http://thedesignair.net/2013/10/30/t...lar-737-cabin/
IMO the best hard product offered on any narrow-body is available on AA's 3-cabin 321s.
I could see AC putting recliner-style J seats (similar to the int'l J seats >10 years ago) into the 737s, possibly even lie-flat seats in config, but I doubt they'll install the int'l J pods.
Sep 23, 2015, 5:34 pm
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How is Rouge Premium Economy on the 767 better than Domestic J?
(AC also flies rouge to LIM and I'm not convinced there is more premium traffic to BOG than LIM.)