YVR - HNL Business
Jan 31, 2015, 4:25 pm
#16
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Only other option? I beg to differ. How about UA, DL, HA, AA, WS?
Use google flights to compare.
WS doesn't have a premium cabin. They do have premium seating with extra leg room, complimentary food, alcohol, baggage. No lounge access.
Jan 31, 2015, 5:27 pm
#17
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OGG, YYC
Programs: AA, AC
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I haven't tried Premium Rouge but I don't think they're comparable.
Last edited by After Burner; Jan 31, 2015 at 5:38 pm
Jan 31, 2015, 5:44 pm
#18
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Jan 31, 2015, 6:10 pm
#19
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: YWG
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The horrible experience I referred to was rouge Y. As stated mainly out of spite and perceived poor product, I can't bring myself to spend an extra $1000-1500 for their premium rouge product.
Jan 31, 2015, 6:12 pm
#20
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Never home.
Posts: 2,971
The YVR-SFO leg on UA would involve being in more or less the same non-flat seat as you could have been on nonstop YVR-HNL.
Yes Rouge YVR-HNL is way worse than the AC pods were. But those don't exist anymore, and the alternatives really aren't better. If people are willing to connect to get a lie-flat on 1/4 flights on a daytime leg for ~5 hours and add several hours for it... all the power to them.
Jan 31, 2015, 7:57 pm
#21
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OGG, YYC
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Comparable to that, no. But that is only on 1 of 4 SFO-HNL flights. The other 3 are on domestic configured 777s where you'll have way more legroom than Rouge, but it still won't go flat. Plus they have middle seats. Even worse, the redeye is on a 757 or 737 which isn't a better seat than Rouge.
The YVR-SFO leg on UA would involve being in more or less the same non-flat seat as you could have been on nonstop YVR-HNL.
Yes Rouge YVR-HNL is way worse than the AC pods were. But those don't exist anymore, and the alternatives really aren't better. If people are willing to connect to get a lie-flat on 1/4 flights on a daytime leg for ~5 hours and add several hours for it... all the power to them.
The YVR-SFO leg on UA would involve being in more or less the same non-flat seat as you could have been on nonstop YVR-HNL.
Yes Rouge YVR-HNL is way worse than the AC pods were. But those don't exist anymore, and the alternatives really aren't better. If people are willing to connect to get a lie-flat on 1/4 flights on a daytime leg for ~5 hours and add several hours for it... all the power to them.
Jan 31, 2015, 9:24 pm
#22
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The Maritimes
Programs: Air Canada 100K, Hilton Honors Diamond, Accor Gold, Best Western Diamond
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I just flew from YFC to HNL (Via YYZ and YVO) returning OGG to YFC (via YVO and YOW)...The tickets were booked back in July 14 for Jan 15...at that time the flights showed as normal AC. Suffice to say we were rouged.... well and truly...
Not worth the money..on the return flight we were served a breakfast (took the omelette)... no proper meal.... and then had the same omelette on the next leg to YOW.
Will be looking at other options from here on in.... and if we do fly AC Rouge I will gladly sit my arse in the rear... Bit by bit... I am weaning myself of the status malarkey...and have no interest in Aeroplan Distinction...
Not worth the money..on the return flight we were served a breakfast (took the omelette)... no proper meal.... and then had the same omelette on the next leg to YOW.
Will be looking at other options from here on in.... and if we do fly AC Rouge I will gladly sit my arse in the rear... Bit by bit... I am weaning myself of the status malarkey...and have no interest in Aeroplan Distinction...
Jan 31, 2015, 11:30 pm
#23
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 5,517
I just flew from YFC to HNL (Via YYZ and YVO) returning OGG to YFC (via YVO and YOW)...The tickets were booked back in July 14 for Jan 15...at that time the flights showed as normal AC. Suffice to say we were rouged.... well and truly...
Not worth the money..on the return flight we were served a breakfast (took the omelette)... no proper meal.... and then had the same omelette on the next leg to YOW.
Will be looking at other options from here on in.... and if we do fly AC Rouge I will gladly sit my arse in the rear... Bit by bit... I am weaning myself of the status malarkey...and have no interest in Aeroplan Distinction...
Not worth the money..on the return flight we were served a breakfast (took the omelette)... no proper meal.... and then had the same omelette on the next leg to YOW.
Will be looking at other options from here on in.... and if we do fly AC Rouge I will gladly sit my arse in the rear... Bit by bit... I am weaning myself of the status malarkey...and have no interest in Aeroplan Distinction...
How does one go from Fredricton to Hawaii via Val D'Or?
Feb 1, 2015, 7:26 am
#25
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: The Maritimes
Programs: Air Canada 100K, Hilton Honors Diamond, Accor Gold, Best Western Diamond
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Told you I was Rouged 
Hey it was late and I was a bit ZZZzzzzzzz......
I will reinforce that the cabin crew try....but can only work with what they have...still I think we were up an hour before the first drink was served...no real meal...and a fairly gross omelette...Not a Ryan Air experience but heading that way...
Hey it was late and I was a bit ZZZzzzzzzz......I will reinforce that the cabin crew try....but can only work with what they have...still I think we were up an hour before the first drink was served...no real meal...and a fairly gross omelette...Not a Ryan Air experience but heading that way...
Feb 1, 2015, 7:43 am
#26
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Told you I was Rouged Hey it was late and I was a bit ZZZzzzzzzz......
I will reinforce that the cabin crew try....but can only work with what they have...still I think we were up an hour before the first drink was served...no real meal...and a fairly gross omelette...Not a Ryan Air experience but heading that way...
Hey it was late and I was a bit ZZZzzzzzzz......I will reinforce that the cabin crew try....but can only work with what they have...still I think we were up an hour before the first drink was served...no real meal...and a fairly gross omelette...Not a Ryan Air experience but heading that way...
Feb 1, 2015, 8:29 am
#27
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They don't compare money wise though lets be honest.
Feb 1, 2015, 8:48 am
#28
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Never pay for Premium Rouge, its nasty. Just pick the cheapest flights. Drive to Belingham is a good idea.
Or go UA if you can get E+ the money you save is worth it.
Dont ruin your honeymoon by starting with Rouge.
Or go UA if you can get E+ the money you save is worth it.
Dont ruin your honeymoon by starting with Rouge.
Feb 1, 2015, 9:02 am
#29
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 5,517
And it does not even require a connection.
OP is already travelling to the Vancouver area, so I gather driving to Bellingham would require much additional cost and time, plus a connection for flight to Hawaii.
As much as you "LOVE" everything AC, I believe in this point your advice is directed more to support your own personal views and not trying to help the OP.
Feb 1, 2015, 10:32 am
#30
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