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Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855

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 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Jul 3, 2015, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by pitz
Its actually closer, on the ULH flights, to 1 pound of fuel required to deliver 1 pound of useful payload to the destination.
Well, sure ... if you're only going to count "useful payload" , and you've amortized the cost of the annoying overhead - you know, things like wings, landing gear, and the fuel itself ... the ratio would be a lot different, and I could easily imagine that being closer to 1:1
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Old Jul 3, 2015, 11:51 pm
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Do you bang the heck out of your laptop? I've never had that concern on the table of the 787.
No, you just have to rest your palms on the trackpad for one half of the table to bend slightly towards you. It is fairly unstable, on brand new planes too. Give them a year or two and they will be a wobbly mess.
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 9:11 am
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I wonder how many will be looking forward to experiencing Y after the 777s have been returned to service after the enhancements ( keeping in mind that FTers are not necessarily representative of the entire collection of pax)

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I wonder how many will be looking forward to experiencing Y after the 777s have been returned to service after the enhancements ( keeping in mind that FTers are not necessarily representative of the entire collection of pax)
"New Y" in AC or even ANA, TG are not something I can fly. Period.

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Old Jul 4, 2015, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Allvest
"New Y" in AC or even ANA, TG are not something I can fly. Period.
Silver lining?
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Allvest
"New Y" in AC or even ANA, TG are not something I can fly. Period.
Good news!
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by girl.power
Good news!
Lol, that first post.

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Old Jul 4, 2015, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
that said.....

I wonder how many will be looking forward to experiencing Y after the 777s have been returned to service after the enhancements ( keeping in mind that FTers are not necessarily representative of the entire collection of pax)
reduction of J seats, new crummy Y seats, 10 across seating, whats not to look forward to?
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Old Jul 4, 2015, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by girl.power
Good news!
One less of those coveted J seats for you, Girl.power!
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Old Jul 5, 2015, 6:45 am
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What exactly is the difference between Air Canada and Ryan Air? I'm strictly talking about economy and not J or PY obviously. AC keeps cramming more and more seats into their planes. I simply don't see a big difference between the two airlines these days
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Old Jul 5, 2015, 6:58 am
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What exactly is the difference between Air Canada and Ryan Air? I'm strictly talking about economy and not J or PY obviously. AC keeps cramming more and more seats into their planes. I simply don't see a big difference between the two airlines these days
Ryanair is cleaner and is honest as it doesn't make any pretense about a) being a low cost carrier and b) trying their darnedest to rip off their customers at every turn.

AC pretends to be a world leading full service airline while using every opportunity to deceive their customers once they have bought Ito the pretty marketing slogans and photos.

I was extremely disappointed with the new Y configurations at ANA and lately TG.

Y is becoming unfliable for anyone over 180 cm tall and 80kg in weight. Perhaps the airlines are aiming to service only smaller size passengers.
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Old Jul 5, 2015, 7:20 am
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Slim hope indeed.

If the cabin goes 777HD, those with allergies can rejoice as pet in cabin is not permitted.

If the cabin goes 788 style, pet in cabin permitted (please pay $100!).


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
I don't know. But one of the Bens said that the 787 Y seats or a similar variant will be in the 777 post reconfiguration. Surely they know better than us, no?
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 2:20 pm
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By this time next year some of the 777s will have been refurbished. I wonder when this will start reflecting in the seat maps and inventory. No point in adding a PY cabin and only starting to sell it a few weeks before.
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 12:43 pm
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By this time next year some of the 777s will have been refurbished. I wonder when this will start reflecting in the seat maps and inventory. No point in adding a PY cabin and only starting to sell it a few weeks before.
looking at the problems of AC with its PY cabin downgrades AC might be better not selling PY till all planes are converted.
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Old Aug 19, 2015, 2:46 pm
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So, what do you guys think is the probability that the seats on the 777 (in J) will see a slight variation?

If you had 1 thing you could change about the seats, what would it be?

Lets try to give reasonable suggestions that would only involve 1 or two items and/or not require a complete redesign/overhaul.

For me, it's the location of the tray table. At least if it could be stowed away completely under the TV instead of popping out, it would go a long way.

Other thing I may like would be a small stowage thing on the side of the pod, similar to where you put the menu by your feet.

Say you are on the A side, near the window, on the panel that is to the back of the TV from your neighbour behind you. Something that would fit a passport, wallet, customs card, cellphone/small tablet.
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