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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:01 pm
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New AC structure

new rumor out.....
Tuesday will announce AC will be International flights only and Zip will take over Domestic and USA and Gerry Schwartz of Onex will buy and own Zip.
Also AC is hiring (promoting) staff to be new managers in yyz (as if we didn't have enough)
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:06 pm
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gah. Any rumours on how Aeroplan fits into such a plan?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:23 pm
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I'm assuming then, that AC would only fly 767-200/300, 330 and 340, and Zip would take over the rest (currently 737, 319/320/321, DH8, BAe146, CRJ? [F28 ]) ...

What would happen to Jazz? Tango kaput as well?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:35 pm
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Won't ZIP need some larger aircraft also?

YYZ<->YUL during peak periods
YYZ<->YVR to connect to Asia flights
YVR<->HNL (US)

...for instance
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:37 pm
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Zip doing all domestic and transborder; that should be interesting. I hope JetBlue comes to Canada in some capacity because I've been relegated to mainly cheap flights anyways.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:47 pm
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I wonder if this "rumour" has any truth behind it?

I wonder what this would mean for most AC employees who have survived so far, but are at risk to be classified as surplus once this deal goes foreward?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 7:56 pm
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Et destina?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 8:05 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Lise:
Et destina?</font>
J'aime destina pour seulement des points Aeroplan
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 8:24 pm
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I don't know if I would believe the whole rumour. I think AC sticking with the transcon flights and giving Zip the rest sounds more reasonable. Also I am not sure about the U.S. flights. I think Zip would take all the flights that are mainly leasure destinations and AC would stick with the ones where there is alot of business traffic.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 8:43 pm
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Boy,do things ever get warped going down the 401!!!!!! That rumour is way off what I heard. I heard that Zip and Tango are toast,
so going from nothing to Dom and Transborder
is some warp....I'm sure AC would lose approximately 80% of its High Premium customers with that type of re-org. It would
be the beginning of the end.
Don't know where that rumour came from,but
totally off the wall. I got mine from a very
reliable source. I would say what the plan is
but seeing that it is almost official,it could be to my detriment to say what it is.
You have to know when to shut up. By the way
the actual date I heard they will announce this publicly is Sept 15th (not the 02nd)
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 8:56 pm
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If Zip and Tango are toast, then what will happen to the old 737s? Will they be returned to lessors or re-integrated into the AC mainline network (with or without J-class)?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 8:59 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cslusarc:
If Zip and Tango are toast, then what will happen to the old 737s? Will they be returned to lessors or re-integrated into the AC mainline network (with or without J-class)?</font>

the plan the whole time was to get rid of the 737s anyways so they will not be brought back into the mainline fleet.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 11:28 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I heard that Zip and Tango are toast,</font>
Is that Aeroplan's doing?
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 11:44 pm
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 12:33 am
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Well, in case some of you don't remember, Tango operations will be history on Oct 1.

As for the original rumour, suggesting that Zip will take over all domestic & US operations is a bit too wild as Gazou suggested! No where close to what I've heard as well.

[This message has been edited by Empress (edited 09-01-2003).]
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