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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 2:11 pm
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The current Conde Nast Traveler has published the results of a survey of "The Most Frequest Travelers". Admittedly it's heavily weighted to American business travel but, in the airline section that rates business-class and coach-class cabins, AC appears only once and that's in "Transpacific Airlines Most in Need of Improvement". There it shares space with Air India, Air China, Korean Air and Philippine Airlines.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 4:13 pm
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...and I thought it was just me.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 4:25 pm
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Flyboy: Just how many trips have you taken across the Pacific on AC that allows you to make a judgement that AC needs improvement on transpacific routes??
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 4:28 pm
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AC needs improvement on all routes.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 4:50 pm
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Nice punt, Fly Boy.

For my own account, all my AC has been transboarder, save one transatlantic out of YYZ, since mostly I fly UA / LH.

I can say that the longhaul AC was better than UA, for sure, but I was in the back of the bus that time.

The shorthauls were okay, not exceptional, but not awful either, and changes and upgrading was relatively painless.

The fruitflies buzzing around and on the food in the MLL lounge at YYZ was quite off-putting though!!!
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:33 pm
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Fly Boy, you know nothing about AC's transatlantic and transpacific service unless you lie about your travel.

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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:38 pm
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I have quite clearly stated in previous posts that I have flown AC across the Atlantic. You should really calm down - you are far too excitable today.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:43 pm
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Flyboy: Dorian was making weekly trips across the Atlantic last year and I flew tons of flights across the Pacific, yet we don't complain anywhere close to your level, are we missing something?
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:44 pm
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I can't really agree with the assessment. I have flown AC transpac several times over the past few months and have always been really satisfied, in fact they are my first choice over the pacific. I certainly prefer them to UA any day.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:47 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
Flyboy: Dorian was making weekly trips across the Atlantic last year and I flew tons of flights across the Pacific, yet we don't complain anywhere close to your level, are we missing something?</font>
Perhaps you have lower standards - I don't know. Most "normal" business travellers I know avoid AC when their trip involves crossing an ocean.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:52 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Most "normal" business travellers I know avoid AC when their trip involves crossing an ocean.</font>
Well, most travellers I know both here on FT and in real life have no real complaints about AC's transpac & transat flights both in Y and J class.

As for the "normal" business travellers that you know, I am not really surprised that they are avoiding AC especially with your daily friendly reminder to them that AC is bad with everything.

Do you actually tell them "Friends don't let friends fly AC?" If so, that explains why..
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 5:58 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Fly Boy:
Perhaps you have lower standards - I don't know. Most "normal" business travellers I know avoid AC when their trip involves crossing an ocean.</font>
Fly Boy, I can't restrain myself any longer. I've tried hard not to join in the recent wave of anti-FlyBoy posts, but this is exactly the type of gratuitous AC-bashing crap that causes reasonable people to gang up on you.

Fly Boy, you open your mouth and it's like a fire hose spewing steaming fecal matter.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 6:03 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
Do you actually tell them "Friends don't let friends fly AC?" If so, that explains why..</font>
Absolutely not. All of them make their travel plans quite independant of my opinions.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 6:14 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by After Burner:
...this is exactly the type of gratuitous AC-bashing crap that causes reasonable people to gang up on you.</font>
Empress is venting at me because he is still upset that Canadian Plus audited his account, deducted points when they found a discrepancy, and would not let him exchange the upgrades I sent him for points, which was meant to cover the points-cost of a shorthaul award ticket. The problem is this audit occurred after the ticket was issued and travel had been completed. He is not just upset because I think Air Canada service needs improvement. Everyone can probably guess why FlyerAl dislikes me, and Shareholder seems to be still upset over the confusion with Andrew Webber's lounge passes. Most reasonable people on this board are not ganging-up on me.
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Old Oct 3, 2001 | 6:17 pm
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My A340 J seat YVR-YYZ didn't have laptop power. Since it started in HKG earlier in the day, that alone merits a "most in need of improvement".

My 767 YYZ-LHR did have power in J, so no "F" for Atlantic service


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