Article in the local newspaper
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Article in the local newspaper
I found it interesting that the airlines pay $9.60/head this year.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._seatac30.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._seatac30.html
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I believe this is the PFC (passenger facility charge). It is incorporated into the cost of every passenger's ticket. Some airports (mostly foreign) don't incorporate the fee and they usually call it a departure tax and is payable usually at passport control (or very near there).
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That appears to be another fee in addition to PFCs. Remember PFCs are user fees capped at $4.50 per airport departure or connection and are added to your base ticket price and you can see it in action as you add sectors for mileage runs.
Here are some current fees (SEA is $4.50):
http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/pfc.html
Apparently participation is up to the state, or owner of the airport.
http://www.akrepublicans.org/pastleg...y102091999.htm
House Transportation commitee brief on ths whole programme:
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...06-03memo.html
Here are some current fees (SEA is $4.50):
http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/pfc.html
Apparently participation is up to the state, or owner of the airport.
http://www.akrepublicans.org/pastleg...y102091999.htm
House Transportation commitee brief on ths whole programme:
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...06-03memo.html
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Actually, the $9.60 is the CPE (cost per enplanement) which is not a "fee" that is billed to the airlines as such but is a measure of the total charges that the airlines pay for airport operations divided by enplaned passengers (this measure is used to compare costs between airports).
Once several of the major capital projects come on-line (the new A Concourse, Central Terminal expansion, etc) the CPE will rise to over $25 (by 2005) making Sea-Tac one of the more expensive airports for the airlines to operate from.
Among the things that can be done to reduce the CPE are: (1) reduce airport operating costs [the subject of the article]; increase non-airline revenue [such as parking and concessions]; and reduce airport capital spending.
Another way that the CPE can go down is when enplanements go up - - that is what many airports (including Sea-Tac) banked on when they approved all the capital spending.
How times change . . .
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[This message has been edited by seauaflyer (edited 08-31-2003).]
Once several of the major capital projects come on-line (the new A Concourse, Central Terminal expansion, etc) the CPE will rise to over $25 (by 2005) making Sea-Tac one of the more expensive airports for the airlines to operate from.
Among the things that can be done to reduce the CPE are: (1) reduce airport operating costs [the subject of the article]; increase non-airline revenue [such as parking and concessions]; and reduce airport capital spending.
Another way that the CPE can go down is when enplanements go up - - that is what many airports (including Sea-Tac) banked on when they approved all the capital spending.
How times change . . .
[edited for spelling]
[This message has been edited by seauaflyer (edited 08-31-2003).]
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by seauaflyer:
Once several of the major capital projects come on-line (the new A Concourse, Central Terminal expansion, etc) the CPE will rise to over $25 (by 2005) making Sea-Tac one of the more expensive airports for the airlines to operate from.</font>
Once several of the major capital projects come on-line (the new A Concourse, Central Terminal expansion, etc) the CPE will rise to over $25 (by 2005) making Sea-Tac one of the more expensive airports for the airlines to operate from.</font>
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Correct! The high CPE at Denver is the reason many airlines have given for limiting/not starting service there - I believe it is now less than $20. I'll have to dig out a list at the office to illustrate examples of CPEs around the country.
Historically airport costs represent less than 10% of aggregate airlines costs, however, given the dire state most carriers are in they are exerting pressure on airport operators to keep costs down (while, of course, they are also demanding more facility improvements!).
Historically airport costs represent less than 10% of aggregate airlines costs, however, given the dire state most carriers are in they are exerting pressure on airport operators to keep costs down (while, of course, they are also demanding more facility improvements!).

