Denied boarding because of coffee bought after security
Dec 13, 2013, 3:35 am
#31
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Of course Americans are unlikely to spill hot drinks during boarding - they have 94kg suitcases the size of coffins on which to stabilise them, and plenty of time to consume any hot drinks while waiting for the person in front to man-handle their 94kg coffin into the overhead bin.
No danger can ensue.
The OP could always have taken a leaf out of the Qantas book, and requested that the Australian Government replace his coffee because Virgin took it....
No danger can ensue.
The OP could always have taken a leaf out of the Qantas book, and requested that the Australian Government replace his coffee because Virgin took it....
Dec 13, 2013, 3:26 pm
#32
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Different country, different rules. There are arguments for and against it but it is what it is.
My advice: drink as much coffee as you can. Put remainder in bin. Get on plane.
My advice: drink as much coffee as you can. Put remainder in bin. Get on plane.
Dec 13, 2013, 3:32 pm
#33
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...and don't feel that because you're not forced to become a performer in the Security Shoe Ballet or other obscure theatrics that occur "back home" that our security is lax. Not only do I feel safer travelling in Australia than I would in the LOTFAP, we get through security a lot quicker than they do.
Dec 13, 2013, 11:44 pm
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Dec 14, 2013, 12:31 am
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Dec 15, 2013, 11:23 pm
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You do not need to show your boarding pass or ID to go through security when travelling domestically. You do not need to remove shoes etc when going through security.
However, I think you would struggle to find many air security incidents that have occurred in Australia because of the security practices used which could have been prevented with American style security.
However, I think you would struggle to find many air security incidents that have occurred in Australia because of the security practices used which could have been prevented with American style security.
Dec 17, 2013, 3:34 am
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Dec 26, 2013, 8:37 am
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Yes, that's what the woman told me...but what is unsafe about it? You can get coffee on board the plane, so I don't understand why it's unsafe to bring your own coffee on the plane that is purchased post security.
Flying from SYD-MEL and, back in October, from SYD-CNS, I never had to take off my shoes, belt, hat, jacket, watch, wallet, phone or take my laptop out of my bag. I also brought in two opened containers of water and juice (forgot they were in my bag) and nobody said anything.
I also travel with a nebulizer that usually gets swabbed down in the states, or at the very least taken out of the bag and run through the x-ray on its own. Not here. I'm not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing, I think that the states are over-the-top in their security at airports, but I can't say that the security in Australia has been nearly as scrutinizing as it is in the US. So, with my past experiences in Australia compared to those in the sates, I'd consider their security to be lax.
Flying from SYD-MEL and, back in October, from SYD-CNS, I never had to take off my shoes, belt, hat, jacket, watch, wallet, phone or take my laptop out of my bag. I also brought in two opened containers of water and juice (forgot they were in my bag) and nobody said anything.
I also travel with a nebulizer that usually gets swabbed down in the states, or at the very least taken out of the bag and run through the x-ray on its own. Not here. I'm not saying that this is necessarily a bad thing, I think that the states are over-the-top in their security at airports, but I can't say that the security in Australia has been nearly as scrutinizing as it is in the US. So, with my past experiences in Australia compared to those in the sates, I'd consider their security to be lax.
I hope that you did not feel uncomfortable travelling to another country where things are different and done differently to what you encounter at home.
Last time I checked thats one of the factors why people travel, to go somewhere different where the customs are different.
Australia has not had a hijacking or a terrorist action for many years.
ID is checked at check in, and at the gate, but you do not need to show ID to go thru security to get into the secure area.
Domestically this means you can go to the gate and kiss a loved one goodbye - equally you can be at the gate when the flight arrives and kiss a loved one hello.
International is different. We check your immigration status if you want to leave our country, in yours you just walk onto a plane regardless if it is international or domestic.
I always think that when you are a guest in someone elses home - you should not criticise how they run their house - it may not be what you do at home, but its not your home.
Equally when you are a guest in another country, do not criticise - you are a guest here and it is impolite to be critical.
Dec 26, 2013, 8:19 pm
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Dec 27, 2013, 1:25 am
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Dec 30, 2013, 12:13 am
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Air New Zealand does not encourage it, it prohibits it: https://airnzcaus.custhelp.com/app/a...tail/a_id/1744
Meals are not provided on Domestic services within New Zealand. However tea, coffee, water and a biscuit are provided. Customers are welcome to bring their own cold snacks onboard. For safety reasons, hot food cannot be brought onboard. Customers with special dietary requirements or children and infants are encouraged to bring their own food for consumption during the flight.
Dec 30, 2013, 8:41 pm
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Dec 31, 2013, 6:47 am
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It would be great if....
...they had clear signage at the coffee cart saying that you can't bring hot beverages onto the aircraft. Not that this would stop all of the complaining, but at least you'd be warned before you spent your $5 on your flat white.
I'm much more shocked/amused/interested by some of the other odd things about Australia- like how, in a country with millions of cows, you still have to pay $50 for a belt.
Scot
I'm much more shocked/amused/interested by some of the other odd things about Australia- like how, in a country with millions of cows, you still have to pay $50 for a belt.
Scot