Virgin America's 'Dark' A319 - How to avoid it
#76
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I'm flying VX F SFO-LAS-SFO. I was notified today that the return flight Monday will be on the plane that's not outfitted. I'll let you know what I think after the flight. Fortunately the outbound flight isn't on the dark plane. When I check in, I'm going to ask for a free pass to the Virgin Atlantic club and see whether VX is interested in promoting customer goodwill.
If Red is really important to you:
You are on an F ticket, so you could change to a later flight without paying a change fee (just any difference in fare). Perhaps they may even wave any fare difference if you tell them how important Red is to your experience?
#77
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: United, American, Virgin America
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In the Subj line of the email it referenced my "upcoming flight on Monday June 30th". The body of the email looked like a form response, however.
#78
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 734
Dark Plane Going Away?
I was on a JFK - SFO flight earlier this week and was talking to the FA about this particular plane. She rolled her eyes and said they all can't wait until it's gone - and VX planned to have it completely upgraded later this summer. Not sure what that means (or if it's accurate).
BTW, this was my first VX flight. Fantastic! ^^If I was the CEO at one of the old line carriers I'd be very afraid.
BTW, this was my first VX flight. Fantastic! ^^If I was the CEO at one of the old line carriers I'd be very afraid.
#79
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 268
That is accurate, as has been reported earlier in the thread. It's slotted to get outfitted late in the summer as the season winds down a bit and they have an opportunity to get it outfitted between deliveries. Although I don't know what we'll talk about here without it.
Speaking of - there seem to be a couple names that are sticking: "Nemesis" "Dark One" "The Dark Horse" and I'm seeing a couple others...should probably pick the favorites in the next few weeks to send them on before it goes in.
Speaking of - there seem to be a couple names that are sticking: "Nemesis" "Dark One" "The Dark Horse" and I'm seeing a couple others...should probably pick the favorites in the next few weeks to send them on before it goes in.
Last edited by articos; Jun 28, 2008 at 4:13 am
#80
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Miami, FL, USA
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That is accurate, as has been reported earlier in the thread. It's slotted to get outfitted late in the summer as the season winds down a bit and they have an opportunity to get it outfitted between deliveries. Although I don't know what we'll talk about here without it.
Speaking of - there seem to be a couple names that are sticking - "Nemesis" and "Dark One" and I'm seeing a couple others...should probably pick the favorites in the next few weeks to send them on before it goes in.
Speaking of - there seem to be a couple names that are sticking - "Nemesis" and "Dark One" and I'm seeing a couple others...should probably pick the favorites in the next few weeks to send them on before it goes in.
#82
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: United, American, Virgin America
Posts: 3
I'm flying VX F SFO-LAS-SFO. I was notified today that the return flight Monday will be on the plane that's not outfitted. I'll let you know what I think after the flight. Fortunately the outbound flight isn't on the dark plane. When I check in, I'm going to ask for a free pass to the Virgin Atlantic club and see whether VX is interested in promoting customer goodwill.
Everything was fine during the boarding process, including the offer of a beverage when I sat down. At this point, I give VX +1 overall.
Next came the safety instructions we've all heard many, many times. In coach, they play a video that all can see on their seatback screens. In F, you're not allowed to pull up your video screen during taxi, so a FA is supposed to display everything. I was very surprised to see that FA act disinterested, and act like what she was doing was unimportant and barely necessary; most of the time she was chatting with another FA. MINUS 2 FOR VX.
The balance of the flight was pleasant and all of RED worked fine (to the extent it is operational). Given that the FAs were interested in only two of the 8 first class passengers, I'll call this even.
The flight from SFO-LAS overall was +1 to VX, but roundtrip, I was disappointed. The ticketing personnel were hilarious, efficient and very friendly.
At SFO I asked to swap the $25 voucher I was to receive for the original return flight on Dark Vader for a pass to the VA club, but they wouldn't do it, claiming the VA and VX aren't affiliated. Riiiiight. To visit the club, I would have had to pay $40 for a one-visit pass -- not worth it to me, though a friend says the food in the club is superb.
#83
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At SFO I asked to swap the $25 voucher I was to receive for the original return flight on Dark Vader for a pass to the VA club, but they wouldn't do it, claiming the VA and VX aren't affiliated. Riiiiight. To visit the club, I would have had to pay $40 for a one-visit pass -- not worth it to me, though a friend says the food in the club is superb.
Do you think Virgin Megastore and Virgin Mobile are part of Virgin America too?
#84
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Can you pay $40 to Virgin Megastore and get a pass to the Virgin Atlantic lounge? Because I'm pretty sure you can pay $40 to Virgin America and get that pass.
#85
Join Date: Aug 2007
Programs: VX, UA 2P
Posts: 968
This is assuming that VX's system is setup to allow for it.
@:-) Hey I just thought of something... VX should sell clubhouse passes in bulk (eg. 10 x $30) or sell an annual pass. Does VS already do this?
#86
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This just reminds me of why I'm not posting on here as much anymore. People are just not willing to accept the truth. It's more fun to make up stories and make the airline out to be the bad guy.
#87
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#88
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Did someone make up the fact that one can buy a Virgin Atlantic club pass at the VX counter? It certainly seems reasonable to me that most people would associate Virgin America as being related to all the other Virgin brands. In fact, I'm sure the owners of the Virgin trademark (and VX management) specifically intended for that to happen.
#89
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While I agree that transactions with VX Reservations over the phone often do seem to take a little longer than expected, the agents have always been friendly and accommodating, and I consider this a big plus for VX.
#90
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Yes, you can buy a VS pass at the VX counter. But that money goes to VS. VX HQ was able to negotiate lounge access at SFO with the VS Clubhouse staff. They haven't been able to do the same at other VS Clubhouses yet.
The two are separate firms - entirely.
And no, the $25 Credit File you get for the dark plane isn't hard currency like the $40 Clubhouse pass so you can't just pay $15 to make up the difference. That $25 credit file comes from a completely different set of books inside VX.
The two are separate firms - entirely.
And no, the $25 Credit File you get for the dark plane isn't hard currency like the $40 Clubhouse pass so you can't just pay $15 to make up the difference. That $25 credit file comes from a completely different set of books inside VX.