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Eastern Traveller, I would expect that there may have been another reason. The US has reciprocal arrangements with many countries which one may:
"enter with passports valid for period of intended stay." These include: - Algeria, Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Rep., Denmark, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, France, FYROM (Former Yugoslav Rep. of Macedonia), Georgia, Germany, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea (Rep.), Guyana, Hungary, Iceland, India, Ireland (Rep. of), Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Korea (Rep.), Kuwait, Laos, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madagascar Dem. Rep., Malaysia, Malta, Marshall Isl., Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Montenegro (Rep. of), Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Palau Isl., Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Senegal, Serbia (Rep. of), Singapore, Slovak Rep., Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, St. Kitts-Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Tuvalu, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vatican City, Venezuela and Zimbabwe You may notice that Malaysia is on the list. The six month thing is a standard boiler plate requirement that is put down by most countries, much like the requirement that one must have an onward ticket. I have never, in my several thousand border crossings or arrivals into any country been asked whether I have has a return or connecting ticket, and while it has been pointed out to me a few times when my passport was close to expiring, no one has ever denied or implied that they would deny me entry. Again, the six month thing is boilerplate and may keep untold Indonesiana, or Gyatemalans out of Malaysia, but does NOT apply to US passport holders according to treaty with Malaysia. Regarding the pages thing. It depends on your travel and reasoning. Last time I had pages added I probably had 8 pages left, but was going to chew through them in 2 weeks time, not a question was asked, however my passport was already extremely thick. I would think that someone with no added pages asking for an extension with 8 pages left might get a question or two. |
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Firstly, a piece of advice to anyone that is denied boardingby an arline in a similar situation when you are sure they are wrong. Ask for a supervisor and explain your case. If that then fails, take out a piece of paper and write "I will take full responsibility to cover my return flight and any possible fine if I am refused entry into XXX" Then sign it. Most supervisors will then let you board (just be sure that you are right beforehand, otherwise you will foot the bill).
A note on this, as I stated before, there are certain boilerplate provisions that always show up. About once every two years I will get an absolute idiot checkin agent when flying to Turkey (generally when cheking in from some US outstation, Gatwick or certain Asian destinations) that will take five minutes to read the timeatic display over and over again. They will then ask to see my visa. When it is explained that Visas are on arrival (which is clearly written on their screen) they will then occasionally ask to see a return or continuing ticket. Explaining to them that this provision means absolutely nothing means nothing to them, they have probably checked in few passengers from Turkey, are lowly paid and are afraid for their jobs. The above trick strategy ALWAYS works (that and the 800 or so entry and exit stamps in my current passport). In any case I would STRONGLY suggest that you return to TG, or to a travel agent right now and have then do a little search on TIMEATIC, not for the boilerplate entry requirements (which I do believe list six months regarding Malaysia for every single nationality on Earth) but the page which references what I posted above, which specifically deals with US treaty terms. I would give you the link if I had it, but I myself lifted it from an earlier FT post. Take aforesaid printout with you to the airport and then give them hell and get on the flight. One question though, Is there anything about your US passport that makes you seem Israeli? Born there? residence stamp? Lots of stamps? This could explain why TG is being ultra sensitive with you as the Malaysians untypically are one of the biggest stcklers about these things. |
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I'm searching for the TIMATIC information you mentioned but what I found is: http://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/ti...buser=DELTAB2C Code:
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but i could not find any reference that says "enter with passports valid for period of intended stay" |
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Apologies to the OP as it seems I've hijacked half of the thread. :(
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I found this website on Google from the UK website of the US Embassy listing the countries for which the 6 month period is not required. I don't know if it will make any difference to the airline at checkin to carry this, as I have overheard conversations at the checkin counter between folks and the TA which refused a boarding pass for a person going to France with US passport (I could see it) with <6months validity. It appears YMMV. |
That is the standard boilerplate Malaysia Timeatic page, there is another one that deals with what I am talkingabout. May I suggest that you PM B747-437B as IIRC he knows the regulation which I am referring to.
Regarding the Israel thing, Yes, you can travel, however what I was saying was that it could be the reason that you are getting extra scrutiny. Secretsea does sem t be on the right track as that is the other end of what I am referring to. |
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here: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/104770.pdf |
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I do not even remember any serious passport control in Bermude, let alone whether they asked for a ticket.
Steve, because its a pain. i pay for a 10 year passport, that passport s good for a full ten years to the vast majority of countries on earth (read up on the treaty posts) so why should I lose time or go through the hassle of getting a new one because of bureaucratic boilerplate which in this case is not applicable?? Hell, in any case, so what if your passport expired while you were/are away, you can get it renewed in less than a week almost anywhere on Earth (where there is a consulate or embassy) the whole thing is just stupid and antiquated. |
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There are a whole host of things that can make travel difficult. It strikes me that this is one thing that is easy to prevent and at essentially no cost, yet some people choose to make things difficult on themselves. Just my opinion. |
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