US trip: Please criticize
#62
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cordelli, it has changed a bit. Plane lands at 1pm, so I'm in Manhattan by 2pm, I think. The idea of going to Parsippany has been dropped - I'll stay in crappy cheap central NYC hotel, but it's very central - New World Hotel I think it's called. I've got half a day first, and then the whole next day. I'm visiting MET on Sunday if I can make it, if not - so be it. Then Statue of Liberty and Empire state building also on Sunday.
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1) From Baltimore BWI airport 6pm direct to Phoenix 10pm (I have to take a bus to BWI, but it's a direct flight)
or
2) From Washington Ronald Reagan Airport 3pm, connecting in Atlanta, to Phoenix 10pm (Airport way closer to where I'll be staying, but trip takes longer and there's a change of planes)
or
2) From Washington Ronald Reagan Airport 3pm, connecting in Atlanta, to Phoenix 10pm (Airport way closer to where I'll be staying, but trip takes longer and there's a change of planes)
For BWI, I assume you are talking about the B30 bus? You will have to take a 30+ minute metro ride to Greenbelt, then a ~45 minute traffic prone bus ride to BWI. Also once you get there, security can sometimes be pretty long so overall travel time is probably only slightly faster then the DCA option. I don't want to discourage you from BWI, as its definitely doable, but to me a connection in ATL is easier if price is the same.
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[QUOTE=Powka;18209621] Do you think it's worth buying subway daily pass? Do I really need it? I assume I'll get on subway 2 times/day max.[QUOTE]
MTA fares were restructured a few months ago and the one-day "fun" pass is no longer available. Do a rough estimate of how many trips you might take, round *UP*, and buy a multiple ride Metrocard from a fare machine in a subway station. Over $10 gets you something like a 15% bonus, plus you get a single transfer bus-bus, bus-subway/subway within two hours (a single ride Metrocard won't give you transfer advantages, IIRC). In frequently scorching hot July you won't mind not walking the shimmering hot pavement for hours. As a local I usually buy the unlimited ride cards, but if I'm on a pay-per-ride card I'll strategize, starting my trip with a subway ride, accomplish a quick errand, and then board a bus within the two-hour limit, so two destinations for one fare. In general, count on at least a half hour to get from point A to point B in Manhattan.
It's worth seeing, especially if you've never seen a Frank Gehry building -- check to see if they have tours. It's also worth walking around downtown LA, with the Cathedral, lots of outdoor sculpture, a covered market, and Broadway, where stores selling gowns for Quinceanos (15th birthday) celebrations front the old 1930s movie palaces from Hollywood's early days.
NYC became very security conscious just over 10 years ago, and you will need to check large bags--just how large "large" is varies widely--and in some places even go through a metal detector before visiting certain sites. Be prepared for anything.
I'm no expert on connecting in Atlanta but I keep reading about how often that goes wrong. Fly nonstop, and research Phoenix ground transport before you take your flight. It's a sleepy town and things probably close down early.
MTA fares were restructured a few months ago and the one-day "fun" pass is no longer available. Do a rough estimate of how many trips you might take, round *UP*, and buy a multiple ride Metrocard from a fare machine in a subway station. Over $10 gets you something like a 15% bonus, plus you get a single transfer bus-bus, bus-subway/subway within two hours (a single ride Metrocard won't give you transfer advantages, IIRC). In frequently scorching hot July you won't mind not walking the shimmering hot pavement for hours. As a local I usually buy the unlimited ride cards, but if I'm on a pay-per-ride card I'll strategize, starting my trip with a subway ride, accomplish a quick errand, and then board a bus within the two-hour limit, so two destinations for one fare. In general, count on at least a half hour to get from point A to point B in Manhattan.
I heard Disney Hall is impressive, or do you actually need to go inside for a show to appreciate it?
emma69, yeah I'm pretty confident I can manage to carry backpack for the whole day, wouldn't be my first time. However, I'm getting myself a hotel, so I'll drop it there or exchange it for a smaller bag, that should be allowed everywhere. Cheers.
Oh yeah, one more thing - I'm booking tickets now, can people help me please on this one? Prices are the same.
1) From Baltimore BWI airport 6pm direct to Phoenix 10pm (I have to take a bus to BWI, but it's a direct flight)
or
2) From Washington Ronald Reagan Airport 3pm, connecting in Atlanta, to Phoenix 10pm (Airport way closer to where I'll be staying, but trip takes longer and there's a change of planes)
THANK YOU!
1) From Baltimore BWI airport 6pm direct to Phoenix 10pm (I have to take a bus to BWI, but it's a direct flight)
or
2) From Washington Ronald Reagan Airport 3pm, connecting in Atlanta, to Phoenix 10pm (Airport way closer to where I'll be staying, but trip takes longer and there's a change of planes)
THANK YOU!
#65
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WASHINGTON DC (going through all the National Mall)
- National Gallery of Art
- Lincoln Memorial
- National Museum of American History
- The White House
- The Capitol
- International Spy Museum [$20]
If there's enough time:
- Georgetown
- National Cathedral
- National Zoo Park
- Meridian Hill Park
- National Gallery of Art
- Lincoln Memorial
- National Museum of American History
- The White House
- The Capitol
- International Spy Museum [$20]
If there's enough time:
- Georgetown
- National Cathedral
- National Zoo Park
- Meridian Hill Park
www.wmata.com -- metro & bus
http://www.dccirculator.com/ -- crosstown circulator bus
You might also like the bikeshare program: $7 for a one-day or $15 for a 3-day pass, you can rent bikes for 30 minutes at a time. http://www.capitalbikeshare.com/pricing
I'd skip Meridian Hill Park--it's not near much else on your list and, well, it's a park. If you want a neighborhood experience where you can people-watch off the tourist track, head to Dupont Circle instead. It's 2 metro stops from downtown DC, one from the White House (and you can walk if you are staying downtown). Grab lunch or dinner to go and just sit on the benches in the circle next to the fountain.
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At some places there's two lines, sort of like the elite lines at the airport. One for those with a city pass, pre purchased tickets, etc, and one for everybody else. When you get to a location, if it's not clearly marked, there will almost always be an employee or security guard or guide who will be more than happy to point you in the right direction.
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peersteve, yeah I'm leaning towards a direct flight as well. And I didn't realize that a train can be that late so that you would actually have to worry about that. Weird, why would it be late - it's not like there's traffic or something - unless there are some road works, which should be published on their website or whatever... Oh well. I'll take this into account too, thank you.
fredandgingermad, thanks for the link, and yeah, I will probably won't take the subway pass, I doubt that I will need it.
janehoya - good tip. If it's free and if I will be totally short on money, I will most definitely do this! Cheers!
obscure2k, alright, I'll skip the Olvera street then. But isn't Disney Hall on Olvera street? I'd love to see it from outside. I tried to find any events going on in Staples Center (and in Los Angeles for that matter), but there's nothing coming up. I guess I'll need to check it out closer to the trip. Would be good to get cheap tickets to a game or a gig. Never tried pastrami, but I like suggestions on where to dine - I'll try to give Langers a shot! Thanks!
hedur, thanks for the tips! Yes, it's a bit inconvenient, as I'll be in LA Monday-Wednesday, so no public transport for me then. Any other idea how to get there, except renting a car or taking a cab? And I've just included Santa Monica Pier, totally forgot about that one!
Serpent, well I'm to CA in the summer of 2013, so I'll visit Vegas for sure! As for Statue of Liberty, I'm using this: http://www.citypass.com/new-york/statue-liberty - I assume it does not include entry into the statue, hence less security checks (are there any checks for getting on the ferry/on the island?)
mikeef, I will indeed, thank you!
Wingman32, the hotel itself seems alright to me as I don't need any luxury, just somewhere to sleep in. But the area, as you mentioned, isn't the best - I didn't know that before you noticed it. I will be booking hotels about 1,5 month before my trip, so I still have time to research and find the one that would be good enough. I will also check out the link you provided.
emma69, my bank provides me with worldwide medical insurance, and I don't think I will need anything else as I won't have any valuable stuff, except a tablet and a phone, whose insurance also comes automatically with my bank account.
gfunkdave, I've checked P out previously, but it seemed to me that if they DO find a hotel based on your search terms then they charge you straight away without asking you if you really want to stay in there.
heffa, yes, I thought about that - I have emailed Alcatraz tours, but they haven't got back to me yet. I'm a bit unsure about this one, as they say on the website that they send the tickets by post, and I doubt they'll send them to London. Any idea what to do?
PWMFlyer19, I've looked into that some time before - not really my kind of travelling.
chgoeditor, thanks - that helped. I guess I'll only have a couple of hours to the MET (still, better than nothing, since I get it free with city pass).
doctor15, I thought so too, but missing a flight in Atlanta scares me too much, as that would screw me over for the rest of the trip. I don't really want to take that chance, think it's not worth it. And for BWI, I think of taking Amtrak train to near BWI station, and then a shuttle to the airport.
Fornebufox, thanks for the tip - I'll strategize some time closer to the trip. Thanks for the rest of the tips, and I'll be going from BWI now - don't really want to have that "connections go wrong" thing on this trip.
Anna Phor, thanks a lot!! For the links and the note on the parks.
cordelli, that's good - I'd love to skip at least a little bit of the line. Hopefully it's not going to be longer than an the line with people without city pass.
Just booked non-refundable tickets from London to New York, and from San Fracisco to London. There's no going back now. Cost me $1200 with British Airways, the cheapest I could find after a looot of research. Hopefully I didn't make any mistake, as I had a little bit too much rum n coke, lol
fredandgingermad, thanks for the link, and yeah, I will probably won't take the subway pass, I doubt that I will need it.
janehoya - good tip. If it's free and if I will be totally short on money, I will most definitely do this! Cheers!
obscure2k, alright, I'll skip the Olvera street then. But isn't Disney Hall on Olvera street? I'd love to see it from outside. I tried to find any events going on in Staples Center (and in Los Angeles for that matter), but there's nothing coming up. I guess I'll need to check it out closer to the trip. Would be good to get cheap tickets to a game or a gig. Never tried pastrami, but I like suggestions on where to dine - I'll try to give Langers a shot! Thanks!
hedur, thanks for the tips! Yes, it's a bit inconvenient, as I'll be in LA Monday-Wednesday, so no public transport for me then. Any other idea how to get there, except renting a car or taking a cab? And I've just included Santa Monica Pier, totally forgot about that one!
Serpent, well I'm to CA in the summer of 2013, so I'll visit Vegas for sure! As for Statue of Liberty, I'm using this: http://www.citypass.com/new-york/statue-liberty - I assume it does not include entry into the statue, hence less security checks (are there any checks for getting on the ferry/on the island?)
mikeef, I will indeed, thank you!
Wingman32, the hotel itself seems alright to me as I don't need any luxury, just somewhere to sleep in. But the area, as you mentioned, isn't the best - I didn't know that before you noticed it. I will be booking hotels about 1,5 month before my trip, so I still have time to research and find the one that would be good enough. I will also check out the link you provided.
emma69, my bank provides me with worldwide medical insurance, and I don't think I will need anything else as I won't have any valuable stuff, except a tablet and a phone, whose insurance also comes automatically with my bank account.
gfunkdave, I've checked P out previously, but it seemed to me that if they DO find a hotel based on your search terms then they charge you straight away without asking you if you really want to stay in there.
heffa, yes, I thought about that - I have emailed Alcatraz tours, but they haven't got back to me yet. I'm a bit unsure about this one, as they say on the website that they send the tickets by post, and I doubt they'll send them to London. Any idea what to do?
PWMFlyer19, I've looked into that some time before - not really my kind of travelling.
chgoeditor, thanks - that helped. I guess I'll only have a couple of hours to the MET (still, better than nothing, since I get it free with city pass).
doctor15, I thought so too, but missing a flight in Atlanta scares me too much, as that would screw me over for the rest of the trip. I don't really want to take that chance, think it's not worth it. And for BWI, I think of taking Amtrak train to near BWI station, and then a shuttle to the airport.
Fornebufox, thanks for the tip - I'll strategize some time closer to the trip. Thanks for the rest of the tips, and I'll be going from BWI now - don't really want to have that "connections go wrong" thing on this trip.
Anna Phor, thanks a lot!! For the links and the note on the parks.
cordelli, that's good - I'd love to skip at least a little bit of the line. Hopefully it's not going to be longer than an the line with people without city pass.
Just booked non-refundable tickets from London to New York, and from San Fracisco to London. There's no going back now. Cost me $1200 with British Airways, the cheapest I could find after a looot of research. Hopefully I didn't make any mistake, as I had a little bit too much rum n coke, lol
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http://www.yelp.com/biz/griffith-obs...ke-los-angeles
http://www.simpsoncity.com/hiking/griffith/ (there's also info here about hiking to the Hollywood sign)
Just booked non-refundable tickets from London to New York, and from San Fracisco to London. There's no going back now. Cost me $1200 with British Airways, the cheapest I could find after a looot of research. Hopefully I didn't make any mistake, as I had a little bit too much rum n coke, lol
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Check your bank policy before you travel - my UK bank policy was basic at best - ok in Europe, but not nearly enough for the US IMO (think it was a £1M cap, which isn't enough for medical in the US) and make sure the insurance will cover cost up front (as opposed to you paying then claiming it back).
Tablet, I'd reconsider it - if you are going to be leaving your bag in hostels, for example, when you go hiking. It's just not something I'd risk.
I haven't followed all the ins and outs, but in my experience, Amtrak's on time percentage makes British Rail (or its various privatized parts) look perfect! I'd build in an extra hour or two just in case (all the Amtrak trains I've taken have been delayed, anything from 20mins to 5+ hours!)
Tablet, I'd reconsider it - if you are going to be leaving your bag in hostels, for example, when you go hiking. It's just not something I'd risk.
I haven't followed all the ins and outs, but in my experience, Amtrak's on time percentage makes British Rail (or its various privatized parts) look perfect! I'd build in an extra hour or two just in case (all the Amtrak trains I've taken have been delayed, anything from 20mins to 5+ hours!)
#71
I've only arrived early into LA on the South West Chief (twice in a week!) remember that Amtrak don't own the railroad tracks the freight lines do, so freight trains take priority
#72
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As time and money are scarce I recommend skipping the CA Academy of Sciences in favor of the American Museum of Natural History in NYC. Instead, head to the DeYoung across the street from the CA Academy of Sciences, where you can ride the elevator to the top and enjoy an incredible view of SF gratis.
The DeYoung admission is $11, so I wouldn't consider that elevator ride "gratis" unless they've changed their policy on access to the elevator.
To the OP: a cheesesteak and Cheesewhiz are very different. If you order Cheesewhiz at a Philly cheesestead stand, you'll either get laughed at or have something thrown at you. Cheesewhiz is a chemical abomination that oozes from a can and has very little to do with actual cheese.
p.s. Amtrak on the west coast rarely runs on time. My brother takes it between LA and Oregon a couple times/year; his record delay is 27 hours late into LA. On a tight schedule, I would opt for air over Amtrak.
#73
From DCA you can also go non-stop to PHX. US Airways has 3 daily flights.
What about flying out of IAD? I would say its less of a hassle to fly out of IAD then it is to fly out of BWI.
You have several options to get to IAD from downtown DC. WashingtonFlyer bus or orange line to Falls Church + metrobus. The good thing about going to IAD in the afternoon is that the bus will use HOV and Dulles Access road.
What about flying out of IAD? I would say its less of a hassle to fly out of IAD then it is to fly out of BWI.
You have several options to get to IAD from downtown DC. WashingtonFlyer bus or orange line to Falls Church + metrobus. The good thing about going to IAD in the afternoon is that the bus will use HOV and Dulles Access road.
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gfunkdave, I've checked P out previously, but it seemed to me that if they DO find a hotel based on your search terms then they charge you straight away without asking you if you really want to stay in there.
There are also forums out there (I forget what they are) where people post what they put in and what hotel they got for what price.
Bidding for hotels on Priceline is really the cheapest way, a lot of the time. I've been doing it for years and never had a bad experience. You won't earn hotel points with a Priceline rate, however.
As for why Amtrak is late...it leases space on the tracks from freight lines. Most of the railroads in the US are owned and operated by freight companies. Amtrak trains have to shunt to a side track and wait if a freight train comes through. Also Amtrak in general is underfunded and hemorrhages money in any case. There's really no incentive for it to be on time. It's already ludicrously expensive. A one way Amtrak train ride from New York to Chicago with a sleeper car is usually more than a round trip plane ticket.
#75
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More on Amtrak from Flagstaff...... just to give you an idea of how commonly the train to LA runs late (and there is just 1 train per day in each direction)........the Flagstaff Amtrak station is regularly scheduled to stay open until 11:45pm, although the train to LA is scheduled to leave at 9pm (and there are no other trains)
So....do plan your time in Flagstaff making a connection from GC bus.....and how to get from Flagstaff bus station, which is not in center city to Amtrak station which is right in center of town......the Amtrak station is also the Visitor's Center (see downloads of maps at flagstaffarizona.org and http://www.flagstaffarizona.org/down...gstaff_map.pdf)
If train is late.....how late will you be getting to LA?
Amtrak schedules have a lot of extra time built-in for making-up late-ness..... for example, your train FLG-LA is scheduled for 11hrs 18min.......but the opposite direction from LA-FLG just takes 10hrs 21min..... subtract the two times, and there is about an hour of extra scheduled time for the FLG-LA train to make-up lost time.
enjoy!
So....do plan your time in Flagstaff making a connection from GC bus.....and how to get from Flagstaff bus station, which is not in center city to Amtrak station which is right in center of town......the Amtrak station is also the Visitor's Center (see downloads of maps at flagstaffarizona.org and http://www.flagstaffarizona.org/down...gstaff_map.pdf)
If train is late.....how late will you be getting to LA?
Amtrak schedules have a lot of extra time built-in for making-up late-ness..... for example, your train FLG-LA is scheduled for 11hrs 18min.......but the opposite direction from LA-FLG just takes 10hrs 21min..... subtract the two times, and there is about an hour of extra scheduled time for the FLG-LA train to make-up lost time.
enjoy!