US Airways flight cuts to Las Vegas will destroy that cities tourism industry
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That's supply and demand, the free market economy at work.
US (and other airlines) had many opportunities to save cash during good times and come up with solutions that did not alienate loyal passengers when times got tough.
Instead, US chose to screw the pooch with their gross incompetence and their weak attempt to look like a LCC that charges full whack for services.
US (and other airlines) had many opportunities to save cash during good times and come up with solutions that did not alienate loyal passengers when times got tough.
Instead, US chose to screw the pooch with their gross incompetence and their weak attempt to look like a LCC that charges full whack for services.
and who remembers the days of the space available upgrades!!
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the schedule changes are in -- looks like they've cut a lot (all?) of the west-operated redeyes. LAS-BOS is losing its redeye -- they've cut the route from three departures (9a/4p/midnight) to two (7a/12noon). the only eastbound redeyes i see now are the east-operated PHL and CLT departures...
(i was booked on the 4pm LAS-BOS in december, but noon is a better time for me anyway, so i was happy with the change.. and i expect several more changes before december..)
(i was booked on the 4pm LAS-BOS in december, but noon is a better time for me anyway, so i was happy with the change.. and i expect several more changes before december..)
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If Vegas wants an airline, how about setting up VegasAir ! (RenoAir comes to mind ... )
http://www.renoair.net/gallery.html
http://www.renoair.net/gallery.html
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the schedule changes are in -- looks like they've cut a lot (all?) of the west-operated redeyes. LAS-BOS is losing its redeye -- they've cut the route from three departures (9a/4p/midnight) to two (7a/12noon). the only eastbound redeyes i see now are the east-operated PHL and CLT departures...
(i was booked on the 4pm LAS-BOS in december, but noon is a better time for me anyway, so i was happy with the change.. and i expect several more changes before december..)
(i was booked on the 4pm LAS-BOS in december, but noon is a better time for me anyway, so i was happy with the change.. and i expect several more changes before december..)
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not any more you don't! looks like the schedules shift during the first week of september. i'm just looking up flight availability on expertflyer, but any travel booking site will do.... i see two LAS-BOS nonstops on 9/28 -- 7:25a and 12:05p.
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Also, I want to note how surprised I am by some of these cancellations. Can the 12:05p to BOS on Sunday really be more profitable than the redeye? Aren't those flights always packed with the weekend Vegas run? I understand that keeping staff available for late night flights isnt cheap, but it sure seems that this is kicking themselves in the foot (not exactly a surprise for US).
I switched to a connecting flight that night (to PHL). Hopefully that PHL flight wont be canceled.
I switched to a connecting flight that night (to PHL). Hopefully that PHL flight wont be canceled.
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No Phoenix just built too many homes too quickly. There are still people flowing into the state. Not enough to buy the resales and the gut of new homes also.
Phoenix still has big plans to spread out and make the current sprawl look like the middle of the city.
Phoenix still has big plans to spread out and make the current sprawl look like the middle of the city.
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I'm sure WN would be happy to pick up the slack if it is profitable.
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That'd need to be an amphibious bus if you're in Adak, Alaska. In practical terms, there is only one way on or off the island, and that's an Alaska Airlines flight twice a week. And the fare to Seattle is more than it costs to fly from Seattle to Turkmenistan (literally).
This service would not exist without a government subsidy. Should everyone who lives on Adak pack up and move? If so, where, your house?
This service would not exist without a government subsidy. Should everyone who lives on Adak pack up and move? If so, where, your house?
The truth of the matter is...if a small community suffers a significant economic hardship from the loss of an airline, then they were far too reliant on it to begin with.
It's the community that should be subsidizing the airline to continue some level of service. Asking the federal government to step in because the 20 people/week that need to fly from Podunk to BigCity for a connection flight isn't fair to the other 300 million American taxpayers. If Podunk needs that service so badly, then they can a.) pay to keep it or b.) buy a few shuttle buses and give their residents free rides to the gateway airport.
It's the community that should be subsidizing the airline to continue some level of service. Asking the federal government to step in because the 20 people/week that need to fly from Podunk to BigCity for a connection flight isn't fair to the other 300 million American taxpayers. If Podunk needs that service so badly, then they can a.) pay to keep it or b.) buy a few shuttle buses and give their residents free rides to the gateway airport.
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Actually, Bob Crandall is calling for partial re-regulation of the airline industry.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...egulation.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...egulation.html
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Closer to topic, WN is not invincible. They cannot just add back whatever lift others are taking out: their hedges only cover 70% of their current operation (so any flights added will have to pay full cost); they've really throttled back on growth plans by cutting 2009 deliveries of new planes in half. Gary Kelly even raised the possibility of reducing capacity in their 1Q earnings call. Plus, they have much more lucrative options on the table, as the majors take the axe to their schedules out of DEN, DFW, and the like.

