US transcons to west coast after 8pm - meal in F?
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US transcons to west coast after 8pm - meal in F?
US 419 (PHL-LAS) departs 8:35pm daily (US metal).
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
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As this applies to US, I'll move to the US forum.
I think we may have a thread on this subject...if someone can find it, please send me the link.
Thanks!
aztimm
I think we may have a thread on this subject...if someone can find it, please send me the link.
Thanks!
aztimm
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There's generally an exception period for true transcon. Perhaps LAS also falls into this bucket.
The 8:30p PHL SFO gets food, as does the 8:30p PHL LAX.
The 10:10p CLT SFO does not get food.
The 8:30p PHL SFO gets food, as does the 8:30p PHL LAX.
The 10:10p CLT SFO does not get food.
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Last time I flew a post 8:00 transcon (BWI-PHX), they provided snacks but no meal.
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I have taken that PHL-LAS flight before and it does receive a meal in F. Granted, this was approximately 8 months ago, so I cannot guarantee it is still there, but at least you have one more piece of information when making your decision.
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Rather than trying to parse whether a given flight is a TCON, why not ask US the direct question about the specific flight.
The US practice has always been to add meal service to specific flights in highly competitive markets. Thus, maybe a surprise.
The US practice has always been to add meal service to specific flights in highly competitive markets. Thus, maybe a surprise.
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Thankfully, through FlyerTalk, I learned that there was a meal. And indeed, once I took both flights, there were meals on both. Hence, it has shown me that asking US this is kind of pointless as they just tell you what their screen says, which may be wrong. The best way to find out is to use a site like FlyerTalk to find someone with experience on the route to give you a definitive answer.
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US 419 (PHL-LAS) departs 8:35pm daily (US metal).
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
After 8pm, you'll have a meal on all flights from the hubs (PHL/CLT) to west coast cities, including DEN, PHX, and LAS. You will not, however, get meal service on flights from spokes to the PHX hub, such as BOS, DTW, ORD, or BWI. At certain times of the year, DCA-LAS operates with a 9:00pm westbound departure. This flight does not get a meal service, either. There used to be several late night departures to the former HP hub in LAS, which is part of where this policy came from.
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US 419 (PHL-LAS) departs 8:35pm daily (US metal).
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
AA/US "in the air" section on their sites state no full meal in F for flights departing after 8:00pm local time.
However, in the reservation detail for the flight booked in F, the flight status says "Meal: Dinner."
The two seem to be contradictory - does anyone have recent experience from flying west on a similar US transcon after 8pm whether a full meal was served or not? Thanks!
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I know you did not intend to include ORD in a list of "spokes". Non-sticker UGs on ORD-PHX for Plats on pmUS metal have been rather enjoyable. I will be sad when they are gone. I am 4/4 this year on that route.
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Confirmed - they did serve a meal on the 8:35pm PHL-LAS flight in F.
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I meant in reference to the US network. ORD is an AA hub, but regardless, does not get a meal to PHX if the flight is after 8pm.
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Unfortunately, US will most probably just repeat back to you what is on the website, which is not always correct. As an anecdotal example, a few years ago I flew PHL-AUS. The website said that there was no meal (in both directions). I asked US directly about this (both over the phone and through their web portal), they said there was no meal.
Thankfully, through FlyerTalk, I learned that there was a meal. And indeed, once I took both flights, there were meals on both. Hence, it has shown me that asking US this is kind of pointless as they just tell you what their screen says, which may be wrong. The best way to find out is to use a site like FlyerTalk to find someone with experience on the route to give you a definitive answer.
Thankfully, through FlyerTalk, I learned that there was a meal. And indeed, once I took both flights, there were meals on both. Hence, it has shown me that asking US this is kind of pointless as they just tell you what their screen says, which may be wrong. The best way to find out is to use a site like FlyerTalk to find someone with experience on the route to give you a definitive answer.
If you have concerns, then contact Customer Service. Those agents are empowered to find answers to questions and can contact the meal services group to get clarification on this issue.
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Update as of 8/9
Last night, US metal - ATL-PHX-SEA itinerary, 8:55PM departure - on time - scheduled for 3:18 from wheels up.
ATL-PHX
- F received PDB, second drink pass after takeoff, immediately followed by warm nuts (very good), then second pass offering a refill on the nuts (still warm). Then, approximately 15-30 mins later, offered option of meal plate or cheese plate, I opted for the cheese (pepperjack, mozzarella, and one additional - thought it was blue cheese, red/green grapes, crackers - perhaps others can verify). Saw that the meal plate includes prosciutto, and two additional meats. Multiple drink passes until flight route deviation due to a significant light show (West Texas/New Mexico) - smoothed out until arrival which coincided with a t-storm over the field. Significant bumps/tossing, got to about 3,000 ft until go-around, did about 30-45 mins tour of PHX, before second try without incident.
PHX-SEA
- PDB > warm nuts/chocolate chip cookie. Flight time 2:15+, fairly smooth (fell asleep soon after takeoff).
Pleasant surprise with the offering, as I was kicking myself for not arriving at ATL early enough for a pre-flight meal to last me until 1:30AM PST arrival in the Emerald City.
ATL-PHX
- F received PDB, second drink pass after takeoff, immediately followed by warm nuts (very good), then second pass offering a refill on the nuts (still warm). Then, approximately 15-30 mins later, offered option of meal plate or cheese plate, I opted for the cheese (pepperjack, mozzarella, and one additional - thought it was blue cheese, red/green grapes, crackers - perhaps others can verify). Saw that the meal plate includes prosciutto, and two additional meats. Multiple drink passes until flight route deviation due to a significant light show (West Texas/New Mexico) - smoothed out until arrival which coincided with a t-storm over the field. Significant bumps/tossing, got to about 3,000 ft until go-around, did about 30-45 mins tour of PHX, before second try without incident.
PHX-SEA
- PDB > warm nuts/chocolate chip cookie. Flight time 2:15+, fairly smooth (fell asleep soon after takeoff).
Pleasant surprise with the offering, as I was kicking myself for not arriving at ATL early enough for a pre-flight meal to last me until 1:30AM PST arrival in the Emerald City.