Who's Right???
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Who's Right???
Here's what happened:
I got on a flight stand-by due to my original flight being severely delayed. I got seat 11B, exit row middle. My 20" carry-on had to be stowed in the overhead bin 3-4 rows behind me. In addition, I had a laptop bag under the seat in front of me.
When we were on our descent, I politely asked the pax in the aisle seat next to me, if it'd be okay if when we heard the "ding" and could stand up, if I could hop out quickly and try and grab my carry-on. He was fine with it. Exit row, so no problem at all.
My incident took place when I got to my bag and retrieved it, others were obviously in the aisles, making it impossible to get back to my seat. My intent was to get back and let my row deplane, with me being lastin the row. Anyway, one pax, whom I politely asked if I could pass by, said no, muttered a few curse words and turned back around. I'm not sure if he realized I had been a few rows ahead or if it would even matter to him. (Or should matter)
I didn't escalate, just waited where I was in line, then retrieved my laptop bag and left. (Side tangent, the attractive blonde I met in the window seat, attempted to pass me my laptop bag while I was inline 3 rows back, but she couldn't lift the 2 laptop heavy bag).
My question is, Was I wrong to try and get back to my original spot? (And maybe get a phone number). Or should I have just waited back where retrieving my bag took me? Or should I have just waited for the entire plane to deplane and grab my bag?
I see it both ways. After pax said no, I considered, maybe he was right, and I shouldn't have tried to get to my original spot.
Thought?? Thanks in advance,
I got on a flight stand-by due to my original flight being severely delayed. I got seat 11B, exit row middle. My 20" carry-on had to be stowed in the overhead bin 3-4 rows behind me. In addition, I had a laptop bag under the seat in front of me.
When we were on our descent, I politely asked the pax in the aisle seat next to me, if it'd be okay if when we heard the "ding" and could stand up, if I could hop out quickly and try and grab my carry-on. He was fine with it. Exit row, so no problem at all.
My incident took place when I got to my bag and retrieved it, others were obviously in the aisles, making it impossible to get back to my seat. My intent was to get back and let my row deplane, with me being lastin the row. Anyway, one pax, whom I politely asked if I could pass by, said no, muttered a few curse words and turned back around. I'm not sure if he realized I had been a few rows ahead or if it would even matter to him. (Or should matter)
I didn't escalate, just waited where I was in line, then retrieved my laptop bag and left. (Side tangent, the attractive blonde I met in the window seat, attempted to pass me my laptop bag while I was inline 3 rows back, but she couldn't lift the 2 laptop heavy bag).
My question is, Was I wrong to try and get back to my original spot? (And maybe get a phone number). Or should I have just waited back where retrieving my bag took me? Or should I have just waited for the entire plane to deplane and grab my bag?
I see it both ways. After pax said no, I considered, maybe he was right, and I shouldn't have tried to get to my original spot.
Thought?? Thanks in advance,
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I don't think there is necessarily a hard right and wrong here - but, if it was me, I would have waited in my row and then retrieved my bag when the people in the rows between me and my bag had deplaned.
If I had done what you did, I never would assume I can make it back to my row, and would have just waited until people in front of me deplaned and made my way back to row 11. (Which is why I just would have waited in the first place).
My two cents is... Wait. And, if you just have to get up to get a bag behind you without waiting, you wait there until everyone in front of you has deplaned.
If I had done what you did, I never would assume I can make it back to my row, and would have just waited until people in front of me deplaned and made my way back to row 11. (Which is why I just would have waited in the first place).
My two cents is... Wait. And, if you just have to get up to get a bag behind you without waiting, you wait there until everyone in front of you has deplaned.
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I think if your passage through the aisle is already blocked with other passengers, you kinda gotta suck it up and wait. Everyone's trying to go to the same place at the same time, and until people actually start moving, it's futile (and a bit pushy) to try to climb over them.
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I think if your passage through the aisle is already blocked with other passengers, you kinda gotta suck it up and wait. Everyone's trying to go to the same place at the same time, and until people actually start moving, it's futile (and a bit pushy) to try to climb over them.
You may be right that i should have just waited, but I take umbrage with your assertion that asking is "pushy".
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Ask your Mom, she knows you a lot better than we do!
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Your practical problem was when/how to retrieve your overhead bag a few rows behind you. A few options exist and you chose your solution.
The rest of what happens is superfluous and other pax reactions are largely irrelevant. Life always moves on.
Barry
The rest of what happens is superfluous and other pax reactions are largely irrelevant. Life always moves on.
Barry
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Thanks Patti. Not sure where you got "climbing all over them" from. I believe I stated I asked the pax if it would be alright to pass by. Pushy would be barreling over them w/out asking.
You may be right that i should have just waited, but I take umbrage with your assertion that asking is "pushy".
Have a great weekend!
You may be right that i should have just waited, but I take umbrage with your assertion that asking is "pushy".
Have a great weekend!
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omg, wait 30 seconds... was it that important to row upstream like that?
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Why didn't you take your laptop bag with you when you originally left your row?
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If you really must swim upstream before the pax behind you deplane, the least you can do is wait back 3-4 rows. Can't take more than an extra 30-45 secs.
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The pax who cursed at you had no reason to curse, even if he didn't want to let you by. But the big question is this: if instead you had already gotten the phone number of the attractive blonde who was sitting in your row, would you have had the same urgency to return to your original row?
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The other passenger was right.
Trying to get past passengers in the same direction everyone is trying to go is generally frowned upon, regardless of where you "started". In this scenario, I generally don't try to go backwards until my row and a few behind have cleared. I gradually work my way back during gaps in the flow. When I get to my bag, I grab it and go forward with everyone else. Even pushing past other passengers in the wrong direction is rude, IMHO.
Trying to get past passengers in the same direction everyone is trying to go is generally frowned upon, regardless of where you "started". In this scenario, I generally don't try to go backwards until my row and a few behind have cleared. I gradually work my way back during gaps in the flow. When I get to my bag, I grab it and go forward with everyone else. Even pushing past other passengers in the wrong direction is rude, IMHO.
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However, given the choice you made, if you politely asked someone if you could try to squeeze past them, they shouldn't have been rude and cursed you out. A polite "sorry I can't" would have worked. For all they know you could have been trying to make a tight connection.
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If I'm on an aisle and my bag is a few rows back I can usually get to it without inconveniencing anyone. By the time I grab it though everyone is up and in the aisles and unless someone lets me through I just wait as its only an extra couple of seconds.
I don't think there is anything wrong with asking. Most people would let you through if there was some room. But the aisles can get cramped and normally at the end of the flight most people aren't in the best of moods (unless you're landing in LAS!). Regardless, it doesn't mean you should be cursed at.
I don't think there is anything wrong with asking. Most people would let you through if there was some room. But the aisles can get cramped and normally at the end of the flight most people aren't in the best of moods (unless you're landing in LAS!). Regardless, it doesn't mean you should be cursed at.