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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:28 pm
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Hello all:

If I am going to get a Y fare and attempt to upgrade with miles to business on an international flight, how should I used seatcounter to my advantage? What am I really looking for? I would assume the more open C seats, the better; but what about a flight that is filling up fast...is there any advantage to that flight? (possible op-up, etc.). Any tips would be useful...thanks!

Thanks. I am a new 2P becoming a 1P after my next flight.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:32 pm
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Set Expert Mode on your .bomb profile and do a Standard Award search. Look for NC/NF availability.

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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:37 pm
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Thanks!

I use expert mode, but never have search for awards this way. Thanks!!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Set Expert Mode on your .bomb profile and do a Standard Award search. Look for NC/NF availability.
To be even more certain, just call UAL before you book and ask about NC availability on the flights you are interested in booking. There have been a few cases where phantom upgrade space showed up on the website while UAL reps couldn't actually see (or honor) the apparent availability. If you're thinking that hard about buying a Y fare, best to make sure before you purchase (or at least make sure within 24 hours after booking, and if upgrade space isn't available, cancel your ticket).

Have you looked into the availability of Z fares on the route? Might not be that much more expensive than full Y and you wouldn't need to use any miles.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:40 pm
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Hmmm

Most all the flight options say 0 for NC (this is the upgrade to business, right?). Is this because they have not released the seats yet or is this an actual number of seats they will have to upgrade with miles (15K for Y fare).

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Originally Posted by firegate
Most all the flight options say 0 for NC (this is the upgrade to business, right?). Is this because they have not released the seats yet or is this an actual number of seats they will have to upgrade with miles (15K for Y fare).
It usually means that seats haven't been released yet. You can request the upgrade and you'll be waitlisted.

Yes, NC is upgrade to business. NY is upgrade to First.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:01 pm
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It usually means that seats haven't been released yet. You can request the upgrade and you'll be waitlisted.

Yes, NC is upgrade to business. NY is upgrade to First.
IIRC, NF is upgrade to First, NY is saver award for 1K
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:03 pm
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I thought NF is upgrade to first ?
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 12:07 am
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Originally Posted by firegate
Hello all:

If I am going to get a Y fare and attempt to upgrade with miles to business on an international flight, how should I used seatcounter to my advantage? What am I really looking for? I would assume the more open C seats, the better; but what about a flight that is filling up fast...is there any advantage to that flight? (possible op-up, etc.). Any tips would be useful...thanks!

Thanks. I am a new 2P becoming a 1P after my next flight.
Keep in mind you can often get a Z fare for less than a Y fare. But Z usually comes with heavy restrictions.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 12:09 am
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What's route are you flying? I would probably purchase a Z over purchasing Y and risking not getting the upgrade....of course that depends on the route.


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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by oldmonster
IIRC, NF is upgrade to First, NY is saver award for 1K
Sorry, yes, NF is the upgrade to first. Brain fart...
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by fzwinter
There have been a few cases where phantom upgrade space showed up on the website
"a few" → "many". There are also many cases where the web site shows NC0/NF0 and the upgrade clears upon booking.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Set Expert Mode on your .bomb profile and do a Standard Award search. Look for NC/NF availability.

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How/where do you set expert mode in .bomb? Thanks
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 8:25 am
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How/where do you set expert mode in .bomb? Thanks
My Profile | My travel preferences | Display preferences | Availability format
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 9:04 am
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Similar situation here:

Flying LHR-DEN tomorrow on a B fare and requested miles upgrade (15k) and have been on the waitlist since the day I booked.

Y looks to be completely full but there's more than 20 open C seats (confirmed with dummy bookings). Not sure why IM isn't releasing seats. I doubt there's going to be that many full fare business flyers less than 24 hrs to flighttime.

Since I'm a 1P on a B fare I should be towards the top of the list, correct?
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