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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 11:48 am
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What is the meaning of the ETOPS markings near the nose on some aircraft?

What was the purpose for the addition and then apparent removal of Captain names on some aircraft about 2 years ago?

Thanks two questions bugging me for a long time!
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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 11:54 am
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ETOPS: Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim



Seriously: Extended-range Twin-engine OPerationS
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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 12:34 pm
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I don't know all the details so perhaps someone could help me out here, but I do know that ETOPS certified planes carry some extra equipment and undergo a more rigorous maintenance schedule.

I think that pilots have to be ETOPS certified as well (if they are going to be flying ETOPS routes.)
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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 12:46 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ewr1k:
What is the meaning of the ETOPS markings near the nose on some aircraft?
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As Always Flyin pointed out, ETOPS stands for Extended range Twin engine OPerationS. It is a certification that allows two-engine aircraft to fly routes that include areas up to two or three hours (depending on the certification) away from a suitable emergency landing strip. (Non-ETOPS twin-engine jets must never fly more than one hour from an alternative airport.) Almost everywhere that ETOPS certificiation is required is over water, hence "Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim".

For a plane to be ETOPS certified it has to undergo special maintenance procedures above and beyond what's normally required, and it has to be one of the airframe/engine combinations for which ETOPS is available.

Right now there are two and three hour ETOPS certifications available, and there's some discussion of four hour ETOPS, which would allow twin engine planes that have sufficient range (like the next-generation of 777s) to fly just about any routing.

BTW, not all UA planes of the same model are ETOPS certified, and this can sometimes cause schedule changes when equipment is substituted. For example, a while back I was flying JFK-SJU when a non-ETOPS 757 was substituted at the last minute for the ETOPS 757 normally scheduled for the flight. That required a routing change (keeping the aircraft along the coast), which added about an hour to the flight time.



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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 3:57 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ewr1k:
What was the purpose for the addition and then apparent removal of Captain names on some aircraft about 2 years ago?

Thanks two questions bugging me for a long time!
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Not all of them have been removed. I was at LAX going to Maui this last weekend and saw one with it one it.
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Old Oct 20, 2001 | 8:34 pm
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Thanks for the answers!!!
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