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basenji Sep 19, 2001 10:22 pm

Significant Changes Ahead
 
There will be a few major international route cuts effective October 1. I can't release what they are, but some will be surprising. Look south for the most significant changes....Also, there are the usual seasonal reductions on some routes. Official announcements shortly.

Whatever you are booked on right now for October has a good chance of going through another schedule change, probably loaded this weekend in Apollo. Check your October flights this weekend to see if there are any changes.

All domestic flights will be staffed at FAA minimums and additional flight attendants added only when the load and service requires.

I am guessing, but I expect meal service cuts in the economy to happen. We are talking about survival right now, so the cuts are necessary. This is pure speculation on my part.

Flight attendants will be offered 30 day leaves in seniority order - the company needs to reduce f/a staffing by 5000 and after the senior flight attendants have taken VOLUNTARY leaves, they will become INVOLUNTARY in inverse seniority order until they reach 5000. These leaves will provide paid medical/dental and pass travel.

Of course, the regional flight attendants (non AFA) based in BKK and SIN will be immediately put on the 30 day leaves for October. This flying will be covered by NRT and HKG flight attendants who are AFA.

Furloughs for F/As will formally begin in November, unless there is some miraculous increase in passenger traffic. At least the junior folk get some medical/dental before it really hits.....



Droneklax Sep 19, 2001 10:32 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif
And I can't help but think that the recent dramatic events are used to justify these cuts.

crankyusi Sep 19, 2001 11:24 pm

Thanks again for the early news Basenji. Major bummer, we became good friends with a purser who is SIN-based.

ldsant Sep 20, 2001 12:05 am

I hope you're not affected (job wise) with these cuts Basenji. This is really a shame.

Why don't they start cutting out some HQ jobs first and see how much $$ they can save -will they be furloughed as well?

basenji Sep 20, 2001 12:29 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ldsant:
I hope you're not affected (job wise) with these cuts Basenji. This is really a shame.

Why don't they start cutting out some HQ jobs first and see how much $$ they can save -will they be furloughed as well?
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I'm spared on this round of cuts, but if things get much worse I'm sure I'll be on the chopping block....

There are major staff reductions at the big WHQ as well. It remains to be seen what sort of salary cuts Mr. Goodwin and Mr. Dutta will be taking.....

avgas Sep 20, 2001 12:35 am

idsant - the airline staff boards seem to indicate the % job loss among desk jockeys and management will be HIGHER than FA and pilots actually. Pain all around it seems. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Also hope Basenji is not affected - fingers crossed. And Basenji - can you maybe drop a slight further hint about routes possibly affected? My sister has Christmas South Pacific tickets booked for family via a travel agent, but not paid for right now. If they may pull those routes versus BKK or SIN etc, and she knew it was possible, it might be worth her quietly ticketing, and then there might be re-protection possible via SQ or NZ on the issued tickets?

Or by "south" maybe I am wrong-guessing here - is the primary language of the maybe to go destinations Spanish or English? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by avgas (edited 09-20-2001).]

avgas Sep 20, 2001 12:37 am

Basenji - nice to hear things your end look OK right now. Mr Dutta can't now get to see his family in India on a staff ticket, nor they him, so he is in REAL pain I bet. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

mjm Sep 20, 2001 2:28 am

Spoke to some local staff here in Japan today and they told me to look out for some cuts on Pacific routes. Most likely candidates I was told to watch are one of the multiple flights to ICN from NRT as well as one of the NRT-ORD runs. Apparently both NRT-SFO runs are lucartive enough to keep.

Basenji, any word on this area?

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basenji Sep 20, 2001 2:54 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by avgas:
Or by "south" maybe I am wrong-guessing here - is the primary language of the maybe to go destinations Spanish or English? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>
Think Bossa Nova and Eva Peron....not total abandonment of destinations, but elimination of certain routes....but there will be some cuts in every area (North/South Pacific, Atlantic etc...)

basenji Sep 20, 2001 2:55 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mjm:
Spoke to some local staff here in Japan today and they told me to look out for some cuts on Pacific routes. Most likely candidates I was told to watch are one of the multiple flights to ICN from NRT as well as one of the NRT-ORD runs. Apparently both NRT-SFO runs are lucartive enough to keep.

Basenji, any word on this area?
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You are on the right track....

avgas Sep 20, 2001 6:24 am

Thanks Basenji. I think I TANGO that http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

greg99 Sep 20, 2001 6:58 am

OK, I'll bite. . .

I wouldn't like to be booked on a JFK originating international flight.

Am I warm?

Greg

jamiel Sep 20, 2001 7:34 am

I'd second that JFK/GRU-EZE would be the ones to cut---perhaps add a BOS-MIA and a JFK-MIA evening flight (there may be one already) to connect to those flights and 5 thinly booked long-haul flights magically become 3 fully booked ones.

leroy11 Sep 20, 2001 7:49 am

Do you think IAD - MXP will survive? Given the amount of web fares to SIN, have to wonder if they'll cut it back down to one 744.

RedRobin Sep 20, 2001 8:36 am

whooooaahh Jamiel..

please, lets not suggest the jfk-gru flight... otherwise i cannot get home :-)

Seriously, anyone have ideas of how they will reshape the South American Flights? (Rio/SP)

thanks
RedRobin


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