quick upgrade question
#1
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quick upgrade question
can a Q class int'l fare ($440 RT ATL-GLA) be upgraded with 20k UA miles? Is a Q class fare "most fares"? Does the upgrade continue on the British Midland codeshare?
jl
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#2
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I'm pretty sure the answers to your questions would be (in the order asked):
No
No
No
(I believe Q and V are never upgradable internationally...
)
No
No
No
(I believe Q and V are never upgradable internationally...
)
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I believe "M" and "H" are the upgradeable international fares.
I didn't realize that British Midland flies a two class flight to Glasgow. I usually have flown BA and the only have coach on that flight.
I didn't realize that British Midland flies a two class flight to Glasgow. I usually have flown BA and the only have coach on that flight.
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international UA fares for upgrades with miles are:[*]Y,B,M,H as eco-fares for upgrades to bus[*]C as only business-fare for upgrades to first[*]and only on UA-flight-numbers with UA as carrier (no code-shares)
but you can also use UA miles to upgrade all paid LH-fares, with the only exception of LH 'W' eco-fares for one-class-upgrades (here too, only on LH-flight-numbers with LH as cariers, no code-shares). If you do so, get your paper-upgrade-voucher from UA (saying 'good for a one-class-upgade on LH from ... to ...) at least two weeks before the flight.
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 10-18-1999).]
but you can also use UA miles to upgrade all paid LH-fares, with the only exception of LH 'W' eco-fares for one-class-upgrades (here too, only on LH-flight-numbers with LH as cariers, no code-shares). If you do so, get your paper-upgrade-voucher from UA (saying 'good for a one-class-upgade on LH from ... to ...) at least two weeks before the flight.
[This message has been edited by Rudi (edited 10-18-1999).]
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LH segments (LH as flight number AND carrier) are the ONLY ONES that you CAN UPGRADE with UA-vouchers (beside UA.segments).
No British Midland, not even any other *A-partner! NONE!
No British Midland, not even any other *A-partner! NONE!
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BD unlike BA has 2 cabin planes throughout UK, although the seating is still 6 across (but more legroom). Its NOT worth an upgrade or higher fare, unless part of a complete int'l C or F fare. On their flights you often get a meal in Y, if you are a RCC member you can use their lounge, and their flights are rarely more than an hour. One note, however, they can be VERY RESTRICTIVE on carry on size.
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RCC card holders can use BD lounges when connecting with a UA-code-share flight on BD even when flying eco.
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thanks all
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I have another question regarding international upgrades using miles. As a Premier Exec, can I increase my chances of getting an upgrade significantly by buying an M-class fare rather than an H-class one? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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NO - either an (upgraded) award seat is available or not - both fares qualify and the fare doesn't influence the availability!
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The only way it WOULD influence the availability is at the airport for last min. upgrades. They then sort by farebase. But until that point, if NF/NC is available, its yours.
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... even at check-in, my experience is that they sort then first by STATUS and may be after that (if too many ff have the same status), by fare paid.
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Yes Rudi you are correct. At the gate, first by Status. But within that same status level (let's say 1K's), if there is a "competition" the race is a bit of a mystery. I've heard it will go to the highest fare paid. I've also heard it will go to the flyer with the most year-to-date status miles on the books. But I do know that in the event of a tie within a status level (all things being equal), it would go the person whose name was first on the Departure Management List.
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Be sure to check the price/fare difference between the 20k and 40k roundtrip upgrades. I was checking to Frankfurt and in that market, at one time, the 20k upgrade fare was only $20 more than 40k upgrade fare.
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That's a great help. Thanks, folks.

