Washington Times - United Admits to StarNet Blocking!
#2356
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Booked a CDG-BKK-KUL next month on TG via UA and it was not a problem...
#2357
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#2358
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Exactly, and if you're booking a r/t award, you won't even have to call and waste time dealing with an incompetent agent at UA (or CO).
#2359
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Need advise of the sages here on flyertalk:
I have 3 award tickets, DEN-SGN on Oct 15. One person in Biz, 2 in Economy.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
I don't have enough miles to transfer miles from UA to CO to make a clean, new booking in Biz via SEA. There are NOT award seats on the return dates so I cannot cancel my current space, transfer the miles, and then rebook.
Any thoughts on how I can make this work?
I have 3 award tickets, DEN-SGN on Oct 15. One person in Biz, 2 in Economy.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
I don't have enough miles to transfer miles from UA to CO to make a clean, new booking in Biz via SEA. There are NOT award seats on the return dates so I cannot cancel my current space, transfer the miles, and then rebook.
Any thoughts on how I can make this work?
#2360
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Need advise of the sages here on flyertalk:
I have 3 award tickets, DEN-SGN on Oct 15. One person in Biz, 2 in Economy.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
I don't have enough miles to transfer miles from UA to CO to make a clean, new booking in Biz via SEA. There are NOT award seats on the return dates so I cannot cancel my current space, transfer the miles, and then rebook.
Any thoughts on how I can make this work?
I have 3 award tickets, DEN-SGN on Oct 15. One person in Biz, 2 in Economy.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
I don't have enough miles to transfer miles from UA to CO to make a clean, new booking in Biz via SEA. There are NOT award seats on the return dates so I cannot cancel my current space, transfer the miles, and then rebook.
Any thoughts on how I can make this work?
Then you can cancel the outward, transfer miles and book on CO. I think that CO gives you the opportunity to put an award reservation on hold for at least one day, so to play safe you could call CO, reserve the OW in business, cancel the OW on UA, transfer miles and finally ticket.
#2361
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What about spliting the RT tickets into two OWs for the passengers in economy?
Then you can cancel the outward, transfer miles and book on CO. I think that CO gives you the opportunity to put an award reservation on hold for at least one day, so to play safe you could call CO, reserve the OW in business, cancel the OW on UA, transfer miles and finally ticket.
Then you can cancel the outward, transfer miles and book on CO. I think that CO gives you the opportunity to put an award reservation on hold for at least one day, so to play safe you could call CO, reserve the OW in business, cancel the OW on UA, transfer miles and finally ticket.
#2362
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I have 3 award tickets, DEN-SGN on Oct 15. One person in Biz, 2 in Economy.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
I checked both the ANA tool and Continental site - OZ has availability for all of us in Biz via SEA. Problem is United appears to have Starnet blocked the seats because UA says it's not available.
#2363
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How many seats does the UA agent see?
#2364
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I tried breaking the ticket into two one ways, but because I originally booked it as a rt, GS line says they have to cancel the whole itin and rebook. There is no way to break the rt itin into two one ways without risking a loss of the confirmed return award space.
#2365
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There are gazillions of other non-*Net blocking related reasons why the agent see a different availability than you do.
Most of these cases come into existence because there is more than one routing to reach the destination and the system stops searching very early.
I encountered that numerous times and the way to go about it is to reserve the award in chunks the system digests. Say I needed SIN-ZRH, the SQ nonstop is ineligible for *A inventory - hence I'd book SIN-BKK-ZRH but calling gives me no availability. Hence I book BKK-ZRH, then add SN-BKK, in coach if necessary.
This happens to me also when calling SQ or LH for an award .. it's the stupidity of the systems, not an intentional blocking.
#2366
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Not when trying to change a segment of an already-booked award ticket on UA stock. But it's a good point generally, and it's the approach I took to book my (separate PNR) award for this same route. Do love the CO booking site, despite a few quirks/issues.
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Searching for HKG-NRT in January. ANA tool/CO site show seats on the non-stop 737, but UA says they don't see any seats on the CO flight. I know I can book through CO, but I found it strange that UA would not be able to see it..
Strange to see this. I've never had issues finding award seats.
Strange to see this. I've never had issues finding award seats.
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Same thing HKG-BKK on 12/26. UA agents see no availablity, but ANA and CO websites show plenty of options.
#2369
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Just booked IAD-FRA-ZRH-NRT no problem. Working on a return now...
#2370
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So...I've done a Google search and a search on FT, but we all know how the search works. So, I was wondering, what is StarNet and furthermore, what's StarNet blocking. Yes, I know this seems like a very idiotic question, but it's still a question nonetheless.