How do you folks feel about GS members?
#31
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA GS 1MM, CM PP
Posts: 689
I think they are, hands down, a remarkable group of individuals. A cross-section of the most brilliant, influential and entertaining contributors to society. Not too hard on the eyes either, I might add.
#32
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SoCal - ONT
Programs: HHonors Diamond, UA Gold
Posts: 9
Um. . .fine?
#33
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 30,000 feet
Posts: 435
I am soooo "stoked dude"
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#34
In memoriam
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Chicago, IL (ORD), Phoenix AZ (PHX)
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#35
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: 36000 Feet
Programs: UA GS, CO Plat. DL Silver, SPG Plat, Marriot Plat., HH Diamond, Hertz PC, many more
Posts: 309
I don't think UA could publish what it takes to attain GS even if they wanted to because the theory is that it goes to the top 1% of revenue producers. They can't quantify what this will be exactly. Setting requalification guidelines is possible but to really just take the top 1% of revenue producers...what if premium fare loyal passengers all of a sudden flock to or away from United?? That threshold is a moving target. Further, I totally agree that people would reach the threshold and then try to get status on another carrier; even though I wouldn't it makes sense to cover you bases in this minefield of potential bankruptcies.
As a GS member and a former 1K, I can tell you that the differences are not that great. I definitely do not get the level of service that I pay for. In my record year, I spent $460K on airfares....still had delays, lines, misconnects, dumb agents, closed RCC's, etc. However, there are some things that keep me coming back first and foremost of which is the ability to talk to a top agent without holding for more than a minute or two at the most. The key to me is that I get treated better at UA as a GS than I do at CO as a platinum and that drives me to give more business to UA.
I will probably have a large amount of envy towards GS if some year I don't requalify.
If you need to feel better about not being a GS, fly through Las Vegas on United. As a GS I couldn't use the 1K premium security line because United had to chose one group or the other and chose 1K so more could use. It didn't matter that I flew 300,000 miles before because my ticket and card said GS not 1K. For a brief moment, I hated 1K's!!!
As a GS member and a former 1K, I can tell you that the differences are not that great. I definitely do not get the level of service that I pay for. In my record year, I spent $460K on airfares....still had delays, lines, misconnects, dumb agents, closed RCC's, etc. However, there are some things that keep me coming back first and foremost of which is the ability to talk to a top agent without holding for more than a minute or two at the most. The key to me is that I get treated better at UA as a GS than I do at CO as a platinum and that drives me to give more business to UA.
I will probably have a large amount of envy towards GS if some year I don't requalify.
If you need to feel better about not being a GS, fly through Las Vegas on United. As a GS I couldn't use the 1K premium security line because United had to chose one group or the other and chose 1K so more could use. It didn't matter that I flew 300,000 miles before because my ticket and card said GS not 1K. For a brief moment, I hated 1K's!!!
#36
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO / SJC
Programs: UA GLD 1MM, AA PLT 2MM, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Silver
Posts: 601
Now, I'd have even less of a problem with it if my company would allow the fares & class of service that would get me invited to GS, too!
#37
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ORD | Chicago O'Hare
Programs: UA-LifetimePremierGold, PLT: Bonvoy, IHG, GLD: Enterprise, Budget
Posts: 247
Funny you mention this... one of the 1K regulars on my Monday work flight tells me that AA comped Platinum (1P) to all Accenture US consultants as well. Kinda makes the challenge/matches a moot point.
#38
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#39
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 757
If I were AA or UA I'd comp 1P/Plat status to all the consultants working for the top management consulting firms as well, considering how frequently they fly and at the biz/first class level.
#40
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,332
I am glad UA don't publish GS qualification criteria. It will give UA the freedom to make changes pending on changes in fare strucutre, supply-demand, and other factors. Having a set of criteria publicly will limit UA the ability to make changes in the future.
If they fly frequently as mentioned in your post, wouldn't they qualify for 1P/Plat status anyway? Also, how do you define what the "top management consulting firms" are? Why only them, and why not also consider "top public companies or top private companies", "top non-profit companies", " law firms". etc. ?
If they fly frequently as mentioned in your post, wouldn't they qualify for 1P/Plat status anyway? Also, how do you define what the "top management consulting firms" are? Why only them, and why not also consider "top public companies or top private companies", "top non-profit companies", " law firms". etc. ?
#41
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SFO South Bay
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Posts: 3,052
If I had to pick one profession that flies a lot, and at top dollar fares, it would be management consulting. Hands down.
#42
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 757
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If they fly frequently as mentioned in your post, wouldn't they qualify for 1P/Plat status anyway? Also, how do you define what the "top management consulting firms" are? Why only them, and why not also consider "top public companies or top private companies", "top non-profit companies", " law firms". etc. ?
If they fly frequently as mentioned in your post, wouldn't they qualify for 1P/Plat status anyway? Also, how do you define what the "top management consulting firms" are? Why only them, and why not also consider "top public companies or top private companies", "top non-profit companies", " law firms". etc. ?
I wasn't making a strict guideline, but most people familiar with management consultants have a general idea of the top firms.
Airlines should consider other professions and they do probably, but management consultants are a super easy decision regarding free status.
#43
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: BCN
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 1,084
I have heard (and believe) that politics plays a role. I fly the 1st UA non-stop from SFO to IAD on many Monday mornings. It is typically full and has a who's who of California politicians.
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I know that they are all GS's. Ms Eshoo sat next to me once and her card was right out on the seat with a "GS". The reps are typicaly in Business, even on a 3-class config aircraft. I don't have any problem with it. It would seem to me appropriate that they be GS. It's a long way to go to represent a constituency.
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I know that they are all GS's. Ms Eshoo sat next to me once and her card was right out on the seat with a "GS". The reps are typicaly in Business, even on a 3-class config aircraft. I don't have any problem with it. It would seem to me appropriate that they be GS. It's a long way to go to represent a constituency.
#44
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
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I think the shame with UGS is that it has reduced all the benefits of being 1K. 1Ks are now the poor relation at United and are pretty much treated that way by their staff. Luckily now I am flying UA enough to make 1K (or 1.5K in fact), but will never make the spend to make UGS.
I miss being treated well by staff, being sure of first meal options, being first on the upgrade list, being offered help during irregular ops, checking in at the short line at the airport, etc.
I miss being treated well by staff, being sure of first meal options, being first on the upgrade list, being offered help during irregular ops, checking in at the short line at the airport, etc.
#45
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA GS 1MM, CM PP
Posts: 689
I think the shame with UGS is that it has reduced all the benefits of being 1K. 1Ks are now the poor relation at United and are pretty much treated that way by their staff. Luckily now I am flying UA enough to make 1K (or 1.5K in fact), but will never make the spend to make UGS.
I miss being treated well by staff, being sure of first meal options, being first on the upgrade list, being offered help during irregular ops, checking in at the short line at the airport, etc.
I miss being treated well by staff, being sure of first meal options, being first on the upgrade list, being offered help during irregular ops, checking in at the short line at the airport, etc.