I've seen it both ways. A few times on light flights, the FAs have said that people are welcome to move about, but those in E- must pay to move up to E+. I don't know how thye would have enforced that or made them pay, but that was the announcement.
I've also had an FA give away my exit seat before I got on board. On a flight from IND to IAD we were on another light flight, and the FA told the first guy on that he could sit where he liked. He, of course, picked my exit roat seat on a small, cramped RJ. I was only a couple of people behind him, so I kicked him out. :D |
Another option may be an annoucment like this
"Due to United Security Regulations and for your own comfort, we ask that everyone remain in their assigned seats. Tasers have been installed in the head rest of each and every seat. Tasers will be automatically activated for any empty seat once the door is closed and cabin is pressurized" :) |
I haven't run into this but I have moved seats before usually after the door has been closed or is closing. Most of the time on flights that haven't been full either. I've asked to move to especially when I'm in a row of 3 and the the row across only has one person in it.
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I rode in E+ for the first time today (made 2P recently) and even got an exit row seat. The GAs were pushing E+ ($14, LAX-SFO) hard pre-departure. When I got on board, I sat down in 16a. About 5 minutes later (still boarding) a guy walks up from E- and takes 16c. I thought about saying something, but I hadn't mentally prepped for this interaction. I could have (should have?) gotten up and talked to the FA, but I just wasn't in the mood for a potential scene. Plus, the FAs hadn't made any announcements related to E+, so I wasn't sure how they'd react.
On the one hand, it wasn't a big deal. The flight was relatively empty and it's not like I needed the whole row. On the other hand, I know the woman in 16d paid for her E+ seat. Plus, in the long run (as has been discussed here before) this is a revenue issue for UA. If people can just poach, why bother to pay? My point is not just to rant--I really wish there was an easier way to alert the FAs. Maybe some sort of subtle signal or "code" to clue them in ... perhaps ringing the call button twice in a row? :D Seriously, however, the idea listed above about using seat maps is a good one; that combined with inviting people to switch seats only after the door has closed (when the FAs can more easily monitor things) might help. |
It's my policy to thank all FA who enforce seating and guard against poaching. Positive reinforcement can be useful in training.
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Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
(Post 8452430)
Hmmm, well, it seems that UA's employees are d*mned if they do and d*mned if they don't.
Quite often, they are derided and attacked on this forum for enforcing rules. (Or sometimes, just for existing.) :eek: |
On my last 6 intl. flights within three weeks, every single time, the E+ mantra has been repeated by the pursers. Including the announcement that pax moving to E+ would be removed from those seats.
On my last ZRH-IAD, the E- was completely packed while E+ showed many empty spots. An FA told me that many pax complained about the crammed seating but they still weren't willing to fork up the $89 asked for a E+ seat. It is great that the courtesy-mass-herding forward of families, innocent looking school classes, scouts, and armies of backpackers which was all that common on the Oz flights finally comes to an end.
Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
(Post 8452430)
..Quite often, they are derided and attacked on this forum for enforcing rules. (Or sometimes, just for existing.) :eek:
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Originally Posted by SMF Rider
(Post 8451934)
Two weeks ago, twice I had FAs allow passengers to move to the exit row when they asked...argh! I know, I only purchased my seat, but a perk of being a 1P or higher is that on a lightly loaded flight with few 1P and above, you often get extra room.
Regarding the OP, my guess about what probably happened is that the group of 3 passengers probably couldn't get seated together when they checked in, so they picked a row of seats and figured they would make the trade when the found out if anyone was actually sitting there. They probably didn't realize that at least one of those seats was likely reserved in advance by someone who would not be happy about a trade into E-. |
Originally Posted by HDflyer
(Post 8453085)
I have liked the few FAs I have heard make the added announcement that E+ is reserved for elites, those who paid for it, etc. and if you are supposed to be in E-, we will be around before takeoff to charge your credit card for E+ access.
I have actually seen poachers scurrying back to their E- seats! |
Originally Posted by as219
(Post 8453396)
I think the FA's job is made more difficult by the lack of distinguishing features of E+... I agree that it shouldn't be a distinct COS, because it really isn't, but the net effect is that the dividing line is blurred for the rest. I've seen a lot of poachers in action, and while some of them certainly know better, others just don't realize that E+ is a different animal.
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The OP mentioned that part of the problem arose because there was a 320 for 319 swap, which means what was a choice E+ exit row seat assignment becomes without warning a not choice first row of E- seat. I have had that happen to me, and fortunately been able to move forward a row so I could sit in the exit row as I had expected to based on my original seat and aircraft assignment. Not sure how this is to be avoided (ask GA in advance of boarding whether it is still a 319 as scheduled, but sometimes they don't know).
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Originally Posted by itsme
(Post 8521415)
..I think such a simple measure would be very helpful, and I don't know why UA doesn't adopt it.
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Originally Posted by weero
(Post 8521462)
The intl. E+ cabins' headrests are clearly labeled with "reserved for Economy Plus" cloth. And still some FAs and pax manage to miss it :rolleyes:.
BTW, is it always "seat poaching" when one moves into a seat other than that which shows on their ticket? I ask because I realize I may be a "seat poacher" in the eyes of some, if "seat poaching" includes moving onself from E+ to E- in order to stretch out across an empty 3-seat row in the back, especially on a red-eye, when one is so fortunate to have such an opportunity. If it is, then I confess to having "sinned" in this way, but I am not repentant. (Need I worry about my mortal soul for doing this, or would this count as only a venal sin?) |
There is not much more irritating than a poacher sitting in the middle seat in E+ and saying something to you as they sit down with their row 40 seating assignment stub with no MP number and saying,"Man I hope you dont mind...it's really packed back there!" Uuugh!
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Originally Posted by Peace2Peep
(Post 8521495)
There is not much more irritating than a poacher sitting in the middle seat in E+ and saying something to you as they sit down with their row 40 seating assignment stub with no MP number and saying,"Man I hope you dont mind...it's really packed back there!" Uuugh!
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