comparing upgrades
#1
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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comparing upgrades
Any exAAdvantage flyers here who can give me a brief comparision of the UA upgrades (EQMs) compared to AA EVIPs (useability, flexibility)?
I've all but talked myself into defecting to Mileage Plus (status match) next year and I need to understand what I am gaining or giving up regarding upgrades. This is probably the most important elite benefit for me.
Thanks in advance for any info!
I've all but talked myself into defecting to Mileage Plus (status match) next year and I need to understand what I am gaining or giving up regarding upgrades. This is probably the most important elite benefit for me.
Thanks in advance for any info!
#2
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NY Metro Area
Programs: AA 2MM Yay!, UA MM, Costco General Member
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Sorry, what level will you be on UA and what are you now on AA? Also, are you talking about domestic or international?
Sorry, what level will you be on UA and what are you now on AA? Also, are you talking about domestic or international?
#3
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
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Sorry, what level will you be on UA and what are you now on AA? Also, are you talking about domestic or international?
Sorry, what level will you be on UA and what are you now on AA? Also, are you talking about domestic or international?
I fly almost exclusively internationally ... round trips starting in South America going to Europe, Middle East, and sometimes USA.
#4
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: UAL
Posts: 4,746
How many miles/year? What cabin are you paying for?
#5
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by Sneezy
How many miles/year? What cabin are you paying for?
about 50%-75% paid coach
25%-50% paid business
#6


Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cape Cod MA
Programs: GS, 3 MM, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 755
For starters, the year after you have reached 1K level (and it is unlikely they will comp you to 1K but you can buy it) you should receive 6 SWU's good for international upgrades for qualifying fares. The real benefit is priority on wait lists - particularly during irregular ops. The other benefit is better telephone service - i.e. getting native english speaking agents.
#7
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: UA 1K MM, *Wood Plat (Gold Lifetime)
Posts: 501
1K gets you:
6 System Wide Upgrades (SWUs) at 100K, and two additional each 50K increment above 100K. (If you flew 150K next year you would have earned 8 SWUs during the year.) These are confirmed at booking if available.
2 Confirmed Regional Upgrades (CR1s) each quarter that you fly 10K bis miles or more -- a total of 8 may be earned in a year. Also confirmed at booking if available.
4 e-500's earned for each 10K miles flown, unlimited earning. Confirmed at the 100 hour window for 1Ks.
No fees for award travel, including changes (other than taxes, etc.)
Refund of Chase Visa fee -- Plat value is $140 (which currently comes with first sign-up bonus of 25K RDM, 5K EQMs, and the ability to earn 5K EQMs on a 1 to 1 basis for tix purchases on ual.com, and 5K EQMs when you spend more than $35K in a calendar year.)
I realize the last two are not "upgrades" but are true values of the 1K program that are less mentioned.
Enjoy.
6 System Wide Upgrades (SWUs) at 100K, and two additional each 50K increment above 100K. (If you flew 150K next year you would have earned 8 SWUs during the year.) These are confirmed at booking if available.
2 Confirmed Regional Upgrades (CR1s) each quarter that you fly 10K bis miles or more -- a total of 8 may be earned in a year. Also confirmed at booking if available.
4 e-500's earned for each 10K miles flown, unlimited earning. Confirmed at the 100 hour window for 1Ks.
No fees for award travel, including changes (other than taxes, etc.)
Refund of Chase Visa fee -- Plat value is $140 (which currently comes with first sign-up bonus of 25K RDM, 5K EQMs, and the ability to earn 5K EQMs on a 1 to 1 basis for tix purchases on ual.com, and 5K EQMs when you spend more than $35K in a calendar year.)
I realize the last two are not "upgrades" but are true values of the 1K program that are less mentioned.
Enjoy.
#8
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Originally Posted by nigos
...(and it is unlikely they will comp you to 1K but you can buy it) ....
#9
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What are the Elite coach seats (E+?) all about anyway? Anyone know where I can find a picture of one?
Thanks for all the help by the way!
Thanks for all the help by the way!
#10
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SFO / SJC
Programs: United 1K MM, Starwood Platinum
Posts: 581
Originally Posted by muddy
What are the Elite coach seats (E+?) all about anyway? Anyone know where I can find a picture of one?
Thanks for all the help by the way!
Thanks for all the help by the way!
#11
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by muddy
I called and they told me to fax proof of AA status and that they would match my status ... well they didnt guarantee it, but apparently there is a status match program.
#12
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by muddy
Thanks for all the help by the way!
. You should switch to UA just to get away from those meanies in the dAArk forum.
#13
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: UA 1K MM, *Wood Plat (Gold Lifetime)
Posts: 501
Go to SeatGuru.com and check out the difference for E+ vs. E- on the different metal. As goplaces has just noted, E+ nets you more room.
A quick glance over there shows the following: (added AA for your comparison)
AA 757 in Y = 31" pitch, 17.2" width
UA 757 in E+ = 36" pitch, 17" width
UA 757 in E- = 31" pitch, 17" width
AA 777 in Y = 31-32", 18.2" width
UA 777 in E+ = 35-36", 18" width
UA 777 in E- = 31", 18" width
Also worth noting that if you are comped to at least Premier Executive (1P) then you will have the ability to book exit row seats at ticketing -- generally resulting in even more room -- sometimes significantly more.
A quick glance over there shows the following: (added AA for your comparison)
AA 757 in Y = 31" pitch, 17.2" width
UA 757 in E+ = 36" pitch, 17" width
UA 757 in E- = 31" pitch, 17" width
AA 777 in Y = 31-32", 18.2" width
UA 777 in E+ = 35-36", 18" width
UA 777 in E- = 31", 18" width
Also worth noting that if you are comped to at least Premier Executive (1P) then you will have the ability to book exit row seats at ticketing -- generally resulting in even more room -- sometimes significantly more.
#14
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by Flyin4MAG
Go to SeatGuru.com and check out the difference for E+ vs. E- on the different metal. As goplaces has just noted, E+ nets you more room.
A quick glance over there shows the following: (added AA for your comparison)
AA 757 in Y = 31" pitch, 17.2" width
UA 757 in E+ = 36" pitch, 17" width
UA 757 in E- = 31" pitch, 17" width
AA 777 in Y = 31-32", 18.2" width
UA 777 in E+ = 35-36", 18" width
UA 777 in E- = 31", 18" width
Also worth noting that if you are comped to at least Premier Executive (1P) then you will have the ability to book exit row seats at ticketing -- generally resulting in even more room -- sometimes significantly more.
A quick glance over there shows the following: (added AA for your comparison)
AA 757 in Y = 31" pitch, 17.2" width
UA 757 in E+ = 36" pitch, 17" width
UA 757 in E- = 31" pitch, 17" width
AA 777 in Y = 31-32", 18.2" width
UA 777 in E+ = 35-36", 18" width
UA 777 in E- = 31", 18" width
Also worth noting that if you are comped to at least Premier Executive (1P) then you will have the ability to book exit row seats at ticketing -- generally resulting in even more room -- sometimes significantly more.
#15
Join Date: May 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 146
As a 1P (Premier Executive) and higher, the ability to book exit rows is a big benefit. On some planes, such as the 763, I can barely touch the seat in front of me when I stretch my legs out. Also, getting the middle seat blocked is nice, and gives room to work and set stuff down.

