UA_Flyer

NTS is investigating two runway near misses this week.

First one involved a LH (A319?) and Chautauqua.
Second one involved two UA jets 737 and A320

Details in the article link below:

I suspect the LH A319 might be a typo.

Any FTers are those four flights that can share more of the stories?



Two Near Misses at ORD

makin'miles

The LH A319 could've been the Privitair-metal, LH-coded flight to/from DUS (all J).

UNITED959

100 feet?? This is Chicago -- if I left a 100 foot space between my car and the one I'm following, I'd hear a symphony of car horns.

DataPlumber

No necessarilly horns, you'd just be the guy that I'd cut infront of to get a few car lengths ahead.

I read abouth the 4L/9L incursion. If you look at where those runways intersect it's only about 1500 Feet from the farthest threshold. It would be just at the start of the take off roll, so the abort would not be so dramtic as the Trib is making it sound. It is serious error but I am going to speculate it was not so dramatic.
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0603/00166AD.PDF

Stanford_1K

The description of the 737/320 incident sounds like it was the one my father described to me last night -- he was on an ORD-DCA flight (hence probably a 737) on Thursday morning (or maybe Wednesday night). He was listening to channel 9, and heard ATC tell them they were cleared for takeoff. The engines came up, they started to move, and he watched a Ted flight (hence a 320) rolling toward their runway on a crossing taxiway not far downfield. Then his flight suddenly stopped (presumably because the pilot saw the same thing!) It then took them a while to get back in sequence for takeoff because of traffic landing on intersecting runways.

After the flight, he asked the pilot about what had happened, and whether he was going to report it. The pilot said he wouldn't because he hadn't done anything wrong -- he had his clearance for takeoff. My dad observed (to me, perhaps not to the pilot) that that's no way to run a reporting system; presumably the Ted pilot also had his instructions, and there are obvious disincentives for the ground controllers to report such things.

Glad to hear that it was reported by someone, though.

milepig

Almost certainlly the Privitair, the Trib. said the incident occured at 4:20, and the ORD-DUS flight is at 4:00. Next most logical flight would be the 4:40 to MUC, which could have left the gate early, I suppose.

FightingIlliniUAL

This is the reason most pilots now choose to keep Channel 9 off...