UA sacks a large % of Australian workforce.
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Originally Posted by Buster CT1K
Actually it does take a lot of people to service 3 747s a day.
The MEL (and BNE) operations were closed some time back office and rez staff wise AFAIK.
Can't be that much more meat to trim.
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Two flights a day most times of year, and they depart and arrive close to each other in and out of SYD/USA, so only 1 shift covers it readily.
The MEL (and BNE) operations were closed some time back office and rez staff wise AFAIK.
Can't be that much more meat to trim.
The MEL (and BNE) operations were closed some time back office and rez staff wise AFAIK.
Can't be that much more meat to trim.
And don't forget any SYD based pilots or FAs. I think they count those as employees in a city, so having 200+ in Syd seems in line with other cities I have read about. Some of the operations seem to be no-brainers to contract out. Fueling, catering, even weather and flight operations could be consolidated under an outside contractor if it saves money. Too bad though.
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I suppose the only silver (tin?) lining for the workers is that the flights aren't going away, so there is still work to be done, but maybe with a different employer. If one was going to argue that I'm wrong because they were very easy/cushy jobs with only 2/3 flights a day, well that speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted by Stryker
Sounds like some gratuitous Aussie bashing on your part, mate.
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
And don't forget any SYD based pilots or FAs.
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Originally Posted by fastflyer
Agreed. What does it mean "holding these workers...to ransom"? Entitlement-mentality doublespeak mixed in with some gratuitous America bashing.
If this is indicative of the worldview in this union, UAL is probably better off ending its relationship with the union.
If this is indicative of the worldview in this union, UAL is probably better off ending its relationship with the union.
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Still not a thing new in media - this is the only outlet to have picked it up press wise by 4.30am:
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E1702,00.html
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E1702,00.html
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Originally Posted by fastflyer
My apologies -- I wasn't intending to insult Australia or the Australian people. Intention was to point out the melodrama in the union speaker's comment.
The Australian union leader was the one who made it an issue by singling out an "American" airline. Was that necessary? Hardly.
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I think we will see more an more of these type of "outsourcing" arrangements continue in the future.
In Asia, I often see contract ground staff etc. checking in passengers even in the airlines home airport.
Unless you are an employee at a main hub of the airline say for UA - ORD SFO IAD,etc. I think you need to be prepared to have another company's name on your paycheck.
In Asia, I often see contract ground staff etc. checking in passengers even in the airlines home airport.
Unless you are an employee at a main hub of the airline say for UA - ORD SFO IAD,etc. I think you need to be prepared to have another company's name on your paycheck.
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Originally Posted by fastflyer
My apologies -- I wasn't intending to insult Australia or the Australian people. Intention was to point out the melodrama in the union speaker's comment.
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Can't be that much more meat to trim.
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
AFAIK there are none. Duty rosters originate stateside.
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
"An absolute disgrace, holding these workers and their future to ransom so that an American airline could leave Sydney on time."
This is one strange quote, from the union leader.
This is one strange quote, from the union leader.
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ABC NewsRadio are still running the story. There is a recorded interview with the Union guy saying what's quoted. It does sound slightly more in context when you here it.
It also sounds like they have chosen two outsource companies and have asked them to hire all the employees. Wasn't clear if that was immediate.
It also sounds like they have chosen two outsource companies and have asked them to hire all the employees. Wasn't clear if that was immediate.
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Originally Posted by wimpypipsqueak
It also sounds like they have chosen two outsource companies and have asked them to hire all the employees. Wasn't clear if that was immediate.