Need remediation help with Mileage Plus
#16
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Originally Posted by nerd
I completely agree with you. This certainly could be confusing to a newbie.
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Originally Posted by Jim Phillips
So if the OP knew he was a newbie, then why didn't he contact UA or get clarification before just plunking down his money?
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Originally Posted by sjsharksfan
As a newbie (only started flying extensively since summer of last year) I can certainly attest that. The rules of the qualifying period is very confusing and unclear. Till now I still cannot find any literature at ual.com that clearly indicates that all EQM accrued in 2004 will qualify you for elite member in 2005 through 2/06, because the language can be easily interpreted as all miles will qualify you for 2004 qualifies you for membership of '04 and good until end of 02/05. It is only from following FT I figured out how it is supposed to work.
Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by jan_az
Um..........you still dont get it.........the miles in 2004 qualified you for status thru 2/05 NOT 2/06
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
#20
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Originally Posted by jan_az
Um..........you still dont get it.........the miles in 2004 qualified you for status thru 2/05 NOT 2/06
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
#21
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This is getting confusing.
Miles Earned in Year 2003 = Status for 2004 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2004 = Status for 2005 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2005 = Status for 2006 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2003 = Status for 2004 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2004 = Status for 2005 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2005 = Status for 2006 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
#22
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It is clear now...
Originally Posted by DevilBucsFlyer
In (perhaps futile) defense of the OPL:
From the way I'm reading his post, I don't think he's contending that the T&C's of the $150 double EQM offer were misleading. I think the small print he would have had to read to understand things properly were the actual Mileage Plus Terms & Conditions.
It seems to me that the confusion came in because he didn't realize that any double EQM's he earned between 10/25/04 and 12/15/04 would be lost on 12/31/04. I think he fully understood that he would only earn double EQM's from 10/25 through 12/15.
The language that confused him from the promotion language was that it discussed earning double EQMs toward 2005 status. Without a full understanding of the way MileagePlus works, it is understandable how a newbie wouldn't understand that 2005 status is earned from 01/01/04 though 12/31/04. He obviously thought that he was getting a head start on his EQM earnings during 2005.
Personally, the T&C's were quite clear to me and anyone with a rudimentary understanding of the program wouldn't be confused. However, I can understand why a newbie might not completely grasp the concept.
From the way I'm reading his post, I don't think he's contending that the T&C's of the $150 double EQM offer were misleading. I think the small print he would have had to read to understand things properly were the actual Mileage Plus Terms & Conditions.
It seems to me that the confusion came in because he didn't realize that any double EQM's he earned between 10/25/04 and 12/15/04 would be lost on 12/31/04. I think he fully understood that he would only earn double EQM's from 10/25 through 12/15.
The language that confused him from the promotion language was that it discussed earning double EQMs toward 2005 status. Without a full understanding of the way MileagePlus works, it is understandable how a newbie wouldn't understand that 2005 status is earned from 01/01/04 though 12/31/04. He obviously thought that he was getting a head start on his EQM earnings during 2005.
Personally, the T&C's were quite clear to me and anyone with a rudimentary understanding of the program wouldn't be confused. However, I can understand why a newbie might not completely grasp the concept.
Yes,
That is basically my contention. I'm the OPL (whatever that is) and a newibe. What is more to the point or to my confusion is that I can earn 2005 status in 2005 and that is what I thought I was getting a head start on.
But I NOW understand that in 2005 I'm earning status for 2006 primarily and 2005 secondarily.
And Yes I should have and wish I did pick up phone.
Just a thought. Why wouldn't/couldn't MP make this promotion available to only those members who receive a benift from it ?
I thanks all those who offered suggestions. I plan writing a letter and I guess I just send to the general CS and hope for the best.
#23
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Originally Posted by eguigal
Yes,
That is basically my contention. I'm the OPL (whatever that is) and a newibe. What is more to the point or to my confusion is that I can earn 2005 status in 2005 and that is what I thought I was getting a head start on.
But I NOW understand that in 2005 I'm earning status for 2006 primarily and 2005 secondarily.
And Yes I should have and wish I did pick up phone.
Just a thought. Why wouldn't/couldn't MP make this promotion available to only those members who receive a benift from it ?
I thanks all those who offered suggestions. I plan writing a letter and I guess I just send to the general CS and hope for the best.
That is basically my contention. I'm the OPL (whatever that is) and a newibe. What is more to the point or to my confusion is that I can earn 2005 status in 2005 and that is what I thought I was getting a head start on.
But I NOW understand that in 2005 I'm earning status for 2006 primarily and 2005 secondarily.
And Yes I should have and wish I did pick up phone.
Just a thought. Why wouldn't/couldn't MP make this promotion available to only those members who receive a benift from it ?
I thanks all those who offered suggestions. I plan writing a letter and I guess I just send to the general CS and hope for the best.
#24
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Originally Posted by nerd
What? As sjsharksfan states, EQM miles earned in 2004 qualify you for status through 2/06.
oops sorry - but his post confused me too
So yes
I flew 100+ miles in 2004
IF I started the yr with no status then as soon as I crossed 25K I would be Premier from that date in 2004 thru 2.06, 50K PremEX from that date thru 2.06 and finally when i hit 100K I would be 1K from that date thru 2.06. Your status starts the day ( well within a couple) pf when you earn it.
so this program could have been of assistance to the OP
#25
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
This is getting confusing.
Miles Earned in Year 2003 = Status for 2004 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2004 = Status for 2005 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2005 = Status for 2006 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2003 = Status for 2004 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2004 = Status for 2005 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Miles Earned in Year 2005 = Status for 2006 + 2 months (Jan, Feb)
Jan_az, you almost gave me a heart attack
Last edited by sjsharksfan; Jan 8, 2005 at 8:42 pm
#26
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The OP (which is "Original Poster", as opposed to "OPL" which is "Original Poster with a typo) should simply print out this thread and send it to United with a note:
"See, it is confusing!"
"See, it is confusing!"