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Old Nov 15, 2004, 12:41 pm
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Need to do the brain suck ST: 763MZs and 7E7-8s for the 763MDs???

MZs MDs?

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Old Nov 15, 2004, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by chichow
Need to do the brain suck ST: 763MZs and 7E7-8s for the 763MDs?
UA Internal Designations for Boeing 767 Models

767-MD - Three cabin 767-322ER
767-MZ - Two cabin 767-322ER
767-MT - Three cabin 767-222 (not-overwater)
767-MV - Three cabin 767-222 (overwater)

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Old Nov 16, 2004, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by SEA_Tigger
7E7-3s for the 763MZs and 7E7-8s for the 763MDs, I imagine.
As the 7E7, the A330, and the 767 are all the same approximate size,
they would actually fit well.

fuselage width, length, and max. pax with 2 class config:
  • 7E7-3 574cm, 56m, 289 pax
  • A330-200 564cm, 59m, 293 pax
  • 767-400 ~520cm 61.4m, 304 pax

I learnt to like Airbus when Qantas introducted the 330 (that is. I stopped
disliking them). Except for the few ongoing issues such as one engine not
turning off at the gate, this is a mighty fine plane. So I am looking forward to
sit in it's 7E7 competitor in a few years time.
Won't miss the 767 too much.
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 10:58 am
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I appreciate the 2-2-2 seating in the 763 C-class, as there is no middle seat.
Not sure, if the A-330 is the same, as I flew it only twice a couple of years ago on US.

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Old Nov 16, 2004, 12:09 pm
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One minor good thing about the 767...they sure are quiet at take-off when you're in First. Man...doesn't even sound like the engines are running! Just roll 'n climb.

Come to think about it...that takes some of the rush-fun out of flying!

So...never mind. There's nothing good about the 767.
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Old Nov 16, 2004, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by gumpfs
Engine warmup times are 5 minutes for the 757 and 8 minutes for the 767. No warmup is needed if the airplane has flown within the previous hour. About a year and a half ago, it was 5 minutes for the 767 and no required time for the 757, but the above times are the current ones.
What drove the change in warmup times? Is it more fuel efficient to warm them up?

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Old Nov 18, 2004, 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by danM
What drove the change in warmup times? Is it more fuel efficient to warm them up?

Dan
No, it's for thermal stabilization of the engines. The industry has had a number of problems with these engines, including compressor stalls, and I believe this is an attempt to mitigate engine failures/compressor stalls on takeoff. The 747-400 has the same engine, but I don't know if they have a set warmup time. It may not be an issue for that airplane (hard to be airborne in 5 minutes regardless). Of course, I'm not sure why there's a 3 minute difference between the 757 and 767.
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