wireless internet while flying
#1
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wireless internet while flying
Does anyone know if UA has plans to offer high speed wireless internet while flying? I had heard about this being planned along time ago. Still in the works?
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Originally Posted by drooth
Does anyone know if UA has plans to offer high speed wireless internet while flying? I had heard about this being planned along time ago. Still in the works?
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Limited roll out started in May on one Lufthansa flight, see
http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/
for details and the airlines that will be offering it.
http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/
for details and the airlines that will be offering it.
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Originally Posted by cordelli
Limited roll out started in May on one Lufthansa flight, see
http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/
for details and the airlines that will be offering it.
http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/
for details and the airlines that will be offering it.
#5
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This I would actually pay for on some of these 12+ hour transpac flights I keep taking. A couple of hours on the net would make time pass much more quickly.
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SAS has also recently started to outfit their long haul fleet with WIFI
#7
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WiFi on board is useful only when flying in C or higher or if you have a Wifi enabled hand-held.
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either
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Originally Posted by GeorgeF
WiFi on board is useful only when flying in C or higher or if you have a Wifi enabled hand-held.
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either

Add in the plane cell-phone usage that CNN reported is in the works, and my non-productive flights just became moderately productive.
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Ive been waiting for this service for a long time this is phenomenal. The ability to actually make a connection while in the air will allow me to get real-time work accomplished while flying; Id pay for this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately Im not a frequent trans-Atlantic flyer so for now Ill only be able to use it at most 2xs per year, however I imagine UA will pick it up as it becomes more popular.
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Originally Posted by drtravix
Add in the plane cell-phone usage that CNN reported is in the works, and my non-productive flights just became moderately productive.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeF
WiFi on board is useful only when flying in C or higher or if you have a Wifi enabled hand-held.
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either
In coach, there's no room to even open-up a laptop and on LH there's no juice either

I've used a laptop on many a flight in coach.
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Originally Posted by cordelli
I've used a laptop on many a flight in coach.
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The chances of UA adding WiFi on their planes before 2010 are slim and none. And slim just left town. 
Sorry, but you'll have to fly non-US airlines to get Wifi in the sky in the next two years and after that I suspect it will be airlines such as JetBlue that add it. UA won't add WiFi because:
1. It costs too much. This is the primary reason. They don't have the cash, nor do I suspect would they be allowed to spend the cash per their bailout and bankruptcy agreements.
2. UA has far too many planes and management doesn't like fragmented rollouts. LH also has a lot of planes, but they apparently can deal with fragmented rollouts better.
3. Culture of getting full buy-in from unions before adding product.

Sorry, but you'll have to fly non-US airlines to get Wifi in the sky in the next two years and after that I suspect it will be airlines such as JetBlue that add it. UA won't add WiFi because:
1. It costs too much. This is the primary reason. They don't have the cash, nor do I suspect would they be allowed to spend the cash per their bailout and bankruptcy agreements.
2. UA has far too many planes and management doesn't like fragmented rollouts. LH also has a lot of planes, but they apparently can deal with fragmented rollouts better.
3. Culture of getting full buy-in from unions before adding product.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
...after that I suspect it will be airlines such as JetBlue that add it.
In my opinion, since the low-cost carriers are small and agile, they can make these changes much easier than the larger carriers, they have less internal red-tape to get through, and they have "grown up" in a competitive environment where they *must* differentiate their services and target particular demographics to win over customers from larger carriers. And, wireless internet access fits into that nicely.
Another thing that is being looked at is offline cached content. For example, every time the plane docks, they hook up a cable (they're looking at wireless docking mechanisms too) to the gate which downloads about 10 or so websites (CNN.com, ESPN.com, DISNEY) and stores it on the plane. Then, instead of having a live feed, people can browse those cached sites from the plane with only a few hour stale factor.
Last edited by drtravix; Oct 9, 2004 at 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by drtravix
Another thing that is being looked at is offline cached content. For example, every time the plane docks, they hook up a cable (they're looking at wireless docking mechanisms too) to the gate which downloads about 10 or so websites (CNN.com, ESPN.com, DISNEY) and stores it on the plane. Then, instead of having a live feed, people can browse those cached sites from the plane with only a few hour stale factor.

