UA F Vs LH Bis Vs VA UC
Dec 15, 2011, 4:59 pm
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UA F Vs LH Bis Vs VA UC
What would you suggest for a croatia to mexico trip,
first class on a united 747,777 or 767 bird ( if so which one out of the 3)
buisness class on LH
Upper class on VA
Any suggestions on what to expect,I normally fly BF on CO so in what ways does it compare. Im 22 so i only have about 150k miles os the more i can save the better unless UA F is really worth it,heard its the MD-80 of F cabins
first class on a united 747,777 or 767 bird ( if so which one out of the 3)
buisness class on LH
Upper class on VA
Any suggestions on what to expect,I normally fly BF on CO so in what ways does it compare. Im 22 so i only have about 150k miles os the more i can save the better unless UA F is really worth it,heard its the MD-80 of F cabins
Dec 15, 2011, 5:07 pm
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Its not worth the EXTRA miles over VS. If it was same price, sure go for it, but at equal price - not worth it IMHO.
Dec 15, 2011, 5:45 pm
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UA and LH are the two options I know.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
Dec 15, 2011, 6:22 pm
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Personally, I really like the VS UC seats, the VS service, and VS lounges. Their food is OK.
I'm sick of the endless dissapointments that I have encountered for the last 8years with UA.
LH is OK but the slanted C seats aren't the best.
BTW, AC is a winner, too.
For me, VS and AC are my recent carriers of choice.
I'm sick of the endless dissapointments that I have encountered for the last 8years with UA.
LH is OK but the slanted C seats aren't the best.
BTW, AC is a winner, too.
For me, VS and AC are my recent carriers of choice.
Dec 15, 2011, 6:26 pm
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UA and LH are the two options I know.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
I would categorize VA upper class below UA 767/747/777new because carrying on a rollaboard is critical to me and VA specifically disallows it. If you check bags, however, I would put VA upper class ahead of UA 767/747/777new because their club room is significantly better than the United Club.
I would also put LH C below UA C 777old for seat quality.
Dec 15, 2011, 6:47 pm
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Not sure where you're getting info about VS specifically disallowing rollerboards. According to VS website, you can bring on two bags in Upper Class as long as dimensions of each bag don't exceed 9 x 14 x 22", which is a normal size rollerboard. Other posters have said that UD 744 storage space is limited so better to sit on main deck if you have a rollerboard carry on. I just checked a couple of threads in Virgin forum about carry-ons including rollerboards, and didn't see any posts about any non-rollerboard policy but did see posts about rollerboards being easier to bring on for main deck of 744.
Dec 15, 2011, 6:58 pm
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Of the options you list UA F on the 744 or 763 (772s are not all upgraded yet). VS UC is hugely overrated. I concede the LHR Clubhouse is extraordinary, the VS UC seats are due for an update. They may have been cutting edge when they were introduced but they are past their prime. LH C is entirely acceptable, but UA F seat is much better.
Dec 15, 2011, 7:03 pm
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UA and LH are the two options I know.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
I think the conventional wisdom is that if you have any interest whatsoever in sleeping:
LH F
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
UA C 767/747/777new
LH C
UA C 777old
Of these options I've flown LH F, UA old F, UA new and old C. I've also flown AF C, which is similar to LH C in that it has a stupidly designed slanted bed seat.
For me (and for most people) there's a pretty big difference between any flat bed seat and any non-flat-bed seat.
www.seatguru.com has more info.
LH F A380/747/A340 new
UA F 767/747/777new
UA F 777old
LH F A330/340 old
UA C 767/747/777new
VS UC
LH C
UA C 777old
I'd probably take VS C if CO BF was good enough for me...
Dec 15, 2011, 9:35 pm
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I disagree about LH. I flew in C from JNB to FRA and it was just awful. Insufficient pitch and width and uncomfortable seating position.
I would gladly fly old UA-C than C on LH.
First on LH, however, is a different matter. Much better than UA.
I would gladly fly old UA-C than C on LH.
First on LH, however, is a different matter. Much better than UA.
Dec 16, 2011, 12:25 am
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Seat - UA F
Food - equally bad
Service - probably UA F
Food - equally bad
Service - probably UA F
Dec 20, 2011, 2:57 pm
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UA Intl F or VS J?
I currently have an award from DFW to DPS (Bali) connecting in LHR to TG F. On the TATL leg, I am currently ticketed on VS J. I also noticed a lot of award space on UA F out of ORD and IAD (all on 763s); so I'm trying to decide between the two. I've never flown either product. I know VS probably has the edge in terms of lounges (Club House vs. the IFL). But the new UA F hard product looks very impressive. I perused through the UA intl F/J meals thread and found F meals to look much better than I expected.
Anyways I'm trying to decide between the two and was wondering if any of you any insight or thoughts about this.
Thanks!
Anyways I'm trying to decide between the two and was wondering if any of you any insight or thoughts about this.
Thanks!
Dec 20, 2011, 7:37 pm
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Dec 21, 2011, 5:40 am
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I currently have an award from DFW to DPS (Bali) connecting in LHR to TG F. On the TATL leg, I am currently ticketed on VS J. I also noticed a lot of award space on UA F out of ORD and IAD (all on 763s); so I'm trying to decide between the two. I've never flown either product. I know VS probably has the edge in terms of lounges (Club House vs. the IFL). But the new UA F hard product looks very impressive. I perused through the UA intl F/J meals thread and found F meals to look much better than I expected.
Anyways I'm trying to decide between the two and was wondering if any of you any insight or thoughts about this.
Thanks!
Anyways I'm trying to decide between the two and was wondering if any of you any insight or thoughts about this.
Thanks!
I wouldn't necessarily pay extra for it, but you've already paid for it. Get over the lounge bit; a couple hours in a lounge versus many more on the plane.
Dec 21, 2011, 6:52 am
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UA F is also great - the new F, that is. Guaranteed on the 767 and 747, possible on the 777.
I think you might consider which routing is better too..