How does MM status affect upgrade priority?
Dec 2, 2003 | 10:40 pm
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How does MM status affect upgrade priority?
Would a 1K MM flyer have a higher priority on an upgrade waitlist than a 1K?
Would a 1P MM flyer have a higher priority on an upgrade waitlist than a 1K?
Thanks
koppelman
Would a 1P MM flyer have a higher priority on an upgrade waitlist than a 1K?
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koppelman
Dec 3, 2003 | 12:25 am
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I think that the consensus on this was that MM doesn't show up on the DM. So, when computers are solely involved, it won't make a bit of difference. But, when a GA is involved, they may give a MM flyer more priority--but probably not 1P MM over 1K.
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Dec 3, 2003 | 7:58 am
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From my experience, MM status does nothing.
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.
Dec 3, 2003 | 8:05 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by corwinsl:
I think that the consensus on this was that MM doesn't show up on the DM.</font>
I think that the consensus on this was that MM doesn't show up on the DM.</font>
Here's what I have been told by MP: Assuming that 2 1K's have 1) same fare basis, and 2) same YTD flight miles....the "tiebreaker" is Life to Date flight miles......
So, in "some" sense, those of you who are already MM fliers could get upgraded first!
Best wishes, Dave
Dec 3, 2003 | 8:05 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by APFlyer:
From my experience, MM status does nothing.
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.</font>
From my experience, MM status does nothing.
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.</font>
You should have put 'APFlyer' on your boarding pass then.
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Dec 3, 2003 | 8:07 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by APFlyer:
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.</font>
Been a MM about 3 years ago (1K every year), when I was in Tokyo with my associate earlier this year, we were both placed on DM list at the same time for UG. He is 1K but his surname starts with "D". My surname starts with "K". He got his UG cleared, I didn't.</font>
Did your associate check in immediately before you (and thus get on the DM list first)?
Dec 3, 2003 | 8:16 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gleff:
Were y'all on the same fare basis?
Did your associate check in immediately before you (and thus get on the DM list first)?</font>
Were y'all on the same fare basis?
Did your associate check in immediately before you (and thus get on the DM list first)?</font>
All the priorities and rules don't mean a thing if the agent doesn't care. It still pays to be a bit pushy and ask often.
Dec 3, 2003 | 8:20 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by APFlyer:
Yes we were! Both on 'H', but separate PNRs. We both checked in at SEA and placed on the DM literally minutes apart. (I didn't check whether my DM time stamp was earlier.)</font>
Yes we were! Both on 'H', but separate PNRs. We both checked in at SEA and placed on the DM literally minutes apart. (I didn't check whether my DM time stamp was earlier.)</font>
Status
Fare Basis
Time on DM list
If your associate went on the DM first (even by a minute) that would be a legitimate tie-breaker.
Without this piece of data there's no reason to believe anything improper occurred.
Now, I don't actually know what the tie-breaker is for same status, same fare basis, and exact same time on the DM list. Maybe it's alphabetical. Maybe random. I just have no idea.
Dec 3, 2003 | 12:40 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gleff:
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Dec 3, 2003 | 4:05 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by glg:
Remember that your dealing with a computer database, so one of them has to be in there first, it's simply not possible for them to tie. One will be there first.</font>
Remember that your dealing with a computer database, so one of them has to be in there first, it's simply not possible for them to tie. One will be there first.</font>
True, but isn't DM time stamped on BP in HH:MM, which means there's a possibility two could appear to be added at the same MM? We need one of the regular GAs on this board to give the final word I think on this issue...