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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 10:30 am
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Upgrade to SIN

I am flying this Saturday to SIN through NRT. I am on the waitlist to upgrade to Business Class using my 1K SWU. I still did not clear. I usually clear a week or two in advance on the same route. Does anyone has the same experience? Does anyone knows why it is suddenly so hard to upgrade?
Is there a chance I will be upgraded at the gate?

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 10:33 am
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Wait a few more days. Inventory Management has been increasingly stingy about releasing seats weeks in advance.

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:12 am
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As mentioned in another thread yesterday, upgrades to Asia are really tight for this Saturday. Even paid C tickets are rough to find for this Saturday.

If you could possibly reschedule your outbound for Sunday you'll have a much better shot...

For Sunday, UA 805 shows
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">SFO1SIN 27/1215#2350 UA 805 F1 C9 D9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9#CHG*C</font>
Similarly, I see lots of Sunday options (such as through LAX and SEA) which are F6 C9.

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:41 am
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I was originally supposed to be on your NRT-SIN flight this Saturday, and all I can say is I'm glad I changed my "SIN run" to a "TPE run" because as a 2P, I don't think I would have had a snowball's chance in h*ll to upgrade, especially if 1Ks are still waiting.

If you can go through HKG, I do know there was confirmable C space about three days ago, HKG-SIN. Problem was, however, SFO-HKG is pretty tight...and 6700K+ in the back of the bus is a scary thought.

I did have a difficult time in getting confirmed upgrades, so UA has definitely become more stingy. Hope that 1K status pulls through for you...
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:50 am
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The conventional wisdom seems to have ben holding holding that unless you were able to confirm NC at time of booking 2 -4 months out, upgrades have not been clearing until about 3 days or less out, even on flights that are wide open in C. I have an NRT-SIN segment for mid-November that I have been waiting for a couple of months on. My SFO-NRT, SIN-HKG, HKG-NRT, and NRT-SFO all were available for NC at time of booking. I had the same thing happen in September.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 5:24 pm
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Thanks for the replies. It looks like that there is no hope for any upgrades.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 6:50 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by UA 100K:
It looks like that there is no hope for any upgrades.</font>
I guess I would approach the flight expecting to ride in Y. (I know, I know, it's easier said than done.) If you get upgraded (the chance still exists, especially for 1K), you'll be delightfully surprised as it'll triumph your original expectation.

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 1:29 am
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The cheapie fares are not upgradable. I could not get a decent price for an upgradable fare.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:07 am
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I got a upgradable fare for $577
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:10 am
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Are we talking about the same thing here? Upgradeable with what is key -- with SWUs vs. with miles is an important distinction. Presumably $577 was SWU-upgradeable, but was unlikely an H fare.

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:11 am
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:14 am
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The only upgrade we've missed in the past couple years was a NRT-SIN leg (I think it was earlier this year) It was oversold in biz, and the gate was offering vouchers to downgrade.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 10:28 am
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Yeah, that's the thing that pissed me off more than anything else about my failure to upgrade.

I paid $2600 for my flight and others were upgrading $600 fares left-and-right in front of me by using SWU's.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 11:14 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by robb:

I paid $2600 for my flight and others were upgrading $600 fares left-and-right in front of me by using SWU's</font>
Don't know if you had the time available but had you bought a ticket to TPE instead of SIN (I would think there are many many cheap options TPE-SIN) you could have had a paid-biz class seat roundtrip (or 2 one-ways) for slightly less than the $2600 you paid per other comments here on FT.

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 11:26 am
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Using what fare code? The cheapest biz class ticket I can see LAX-TPE is $4552.00, fare code CR.

Also, I paid $2600 to fly LAX-BLR (Bangalore, India); SIN was an intermediate point. That's why I was willing to fly to any Asian city where I would pick up antoher flight to BLR.

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