Partial unflown refund caclculation
#1
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Partial unflown refund caclculation
Looking for some info on how United calculates partial refunds.
One way ticket cost $338.25, booked JAC-DEN-PHL. JAC-DEN diverted to COS then eventually made it to Denver but I misconnected. United wanted to send me through Chicago with a 7 hour overnight layover. I canceled and bought a nonstop on Southwest.
Requested a partial refund and United only gave me back $216.96. I believe refunds are based on distance but I am not sure how they are calculated. I only flew 406 miles out of the 1,964 miles on the original routing. I feel I should get roughly 80% of my money back, not the 64% that United calculated. Are they factoring in the diversion somehow? I understand how a scenic tour of Colorado added to their costs but not sure I should pay for that.
One way ticket cost $338.25, booked JAC-DEN-PHL. JAC-DEN diverted to COS then eventually made it to Denver but I misconnected. United wanted to send me through Chicago with a 7 hour overnight layover. I canceled and bought a nonstop on Southwest.
Requested a partial refund and United only gave me back $216.96. I believe refunds are based on distance but I am not sure how they are calculated. I only flew 406 miles out of the 1,964 miles on the original routing. I feel I should get roughly 80% of my money back, not the 64% that United calculated. Are they factoring in the diversion somehow? I understand how a scenic tour of Colorado added to their costs but not sure I should pay for that.
#3
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This is frequently a confusing black box, so I'm kind of surprised to have derived exactly the same result as United, but hey maybe it makes sense sometimes
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One standard method is to use the ratio of fares, instead of pro rata by distance. In this case, the relevant fare would be Y on JAC-DEN and Y on DEN-PHL, and taxes and fees are separate.
The original ticket was $338.25, which would be fared as $291.21 of base fare plus $21.85 of US (a total of $313.06 of ad valorem components), plus fixed fees: 10.60ZP 5.60AY 9.00XF. ZP and XF are segment based and AY is fixed.
The fare Y (not cheapest "full Y" but the actual basis Y) on JAC-DEN is $3,022 and it's $5,911 on DEN-PHL.
So the cost apportioned and allocable to DEN-PHL is $313.06 x (5911/(5911 + 3022)) + $5.30 + $4.50 = $216.953 (guessing UA always rounds up).
.One standard method is to use the ratio of fares, instead of pro rata by distance. In this case, the relevant fare would be Y on JAC-DEN and Y on DEN-PHL, and taxes and fees are separate.
The original ticket was $338.25, which would be fared as $291.21 of base fare plus $21.85 of US (a total of $313.06 of ad valorem components), plus fixed fees: 10.60ZP 5.60AY 9.00XF. ZP and XF are segment based and AY is fixed.
The fare Y (not cheapest "full Y" but the actual basis Y) on JAC-DEN is $3,022 and it's $5,911 on DEN-PHL.
So the cost apportioned and allocable to DEN-PHL is $313.06 x (5911/(5911 + 3022)) + $5.30 + $4.50 = $216.953 (guessing UA always rounds up).
Last edited by findark; Apr 16, 2026 at 8:15 am
#4



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Looking for some info on how United calculates partial refunds.
One way ticket cost $338.25, booked JAC-DEN-PHL. JAC-DEN diverted to COS then eventually made it to Denver but I misconnected. United wanted to send me through Chicago with a 7 hour overnight layover. I canceled and bought a nonstop on Southwest.
Requested a partial refund and United only gave me back $216.96. I believe refunds are based on distance but I am not sure how they are calculated. I only flew 406 miles out of the 1,964 miles on the original routing. I feel I should get roughly 80% of my money back, not the 64% that United calculated. Are they factoring in the diversion somehow? I understand how a scenic tour of Colorado added to their costs but not sure I should pay for that.
One way ticket cost $338.25, booked JAC-DEN-PHL. JAC-DEN diverted to COS then eventually made it to Denver but I misconnected. United wanted to send me through Chicago with a 7 hour overnight layover. I canceled and bought a nonstop on Southwest.
Requested a partial refund and United only gave me back $216.96. I believe refunds are based on distance but I am not sure how they are calculated. I only flew 406 miles out of the 1,964 miles on the original routing. I feel I should get roughly 80% of my money back, not the 64% that United calculated. Are they factoring in the diversion somehow? I understand how a scenic tour of Colorado added to their costs but not sure I should pay for that.
#5
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I would have asked for a million dollars. We'd both have gotten a 'no.'
OP had the option of being returned to JAC, in which case it would have been a Trip in Vain and a full refund would have been allowed.
If your method worked, UA would suddenly have infinite demand for flights like XXX-SFO-MRY and XXX-SFO-SMF in the hopes that people could get free transportation to SFO because "they didn't get [me] where [I] was going."
If your method worked, UA would suddenly have infinite demand for flights like XXX-SFO-MRY and XXX-SFO-SMF in the hopes that people could get free transportation to SFO because "they didn't get [me] where [I] was going."
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I would have asked for a million dollars. We'd both have gotten a 'no.'
OP had the option of being returned to JAC, in which case it would have been a Trip in Vain and a full refund would have been allowed.
If your method worked, UA would suddenly have infinite demand for flights like XXX-SFO-MRY and XXX-SFO-SMF in the hopes that people could get free transportation to SFO because "they didn't get [me] where was going."
OP had the option of being returned to JAC, in which case it would have been a Trip in Vain and a full refund would have been allowed.
If your method worked, UA would suddenly have infinite demand for flights like XXX-SFO-MRY and XXX-SFO-SMF in the hopes that people could get free transportation to SFO because "they didn't get [me] where was going."
I agree that as a general matter, that would be an issue. That's why I think it's highly relevant whether OP asked for and was rejected for an OA routing that would have avoided the overnight.
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This is frequently a confusing black box, so I'm kind of surprised to have derived exactly the same result as United, but hey maybe it makes sense sometimes
.
One standard method is to use the ratio of fares, instead of pro rata by distance. In this case, the relevant fare would be Y on JAC-DEN and Y on DEN-PHL, and taxes and fees are separate.
The original ticket was $338.25, which would be fared as $291.21 of base fare plus $21.85 of US (a total of $313.06 of ad valorem components), plus fixed fees: 10.60ZP 5.60AY 9.00XF. ZP and XF are segment based and AY is fixed.
The fare Y (not cheapest "full Y" but the actual basis Y) on JAC-DEN is $3,022 and it's $5,911 on DEN-PHL.
So the cost apportioned and allocable to DEN-PHL is $313.06 x (5911/(5911 + 3022)) + $5.30 + $4.50 = $216.953 (guessing UA always rounds up).
.One standard method is to use the ratio of fares, instead of pro rata by distance. In this case, the relevant fare would be Y on JAC-DEN and Y on DEN-PHL, and taxes and fees are separate.
The original ticket was $338.25, which would be fared as $291.21 of base fare plus $21.85 of US (a total of $313.06 of ad valorem components), plus fixed fees: 10.60ZP 5.60AY 9.00XF. ZP and XF are segment based and AY is fixed.
The fare Y (not cheapest "full Y" but the actual basis Y) on JAC-DEN is $3,022 and it's $5,911 on DEN-PHL.
So the cost apportioned and allocable to DEN-PHL is $313.06 x (5911/(5911 + 3022)) + $5.30 + $4.50 = $216.953 (guessing UA always rounds up).
Side note: This was my first time on Southwest after two million miles with DL and UA. I will say the plane was new, got a nice seat with decent legroom, the staff were pleasant, wi-fi and drinks were free. (drinks were supposed to be $9 but apparently they "forget" to charge often.) Most importantly, they ran on time. This mishap completely changed my perception of Southwest.
Last edited by DLASflyer; Apr 16, 2026 at 12:00 pm




