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Old Nov 30, 2023, 3:52 pm
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UA 2025 sfo-ogg. Returned to sfo

About an hour out over the pacific
apparently the engine warning (fire?) system wasn’t working and needed to return back to sfo

got to sfo around 1030a - scheduled to go out after frame swap at 2p then delayed until 3 due to catering.

I usually just ignore those engine warning lights
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Old Nov 30, 2023, 4:31 pm
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Old Nov 30, 2023, 4:37 pm
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Pretty light load...

"...delayed until 3 due to catering..." Couldn't have been because the food turned bad - they just had to put in on the next plane.
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Old Nov 30, 2023, 10:11 pm
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The real question is did catering board the OF
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 7:58 am
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Do you get the extra miles? what about PQF, PQP? Would seem only fair to get credit for the extra flight.
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by LimeySD
Do you get the extra miles? what about PQF, PQP? Would seem only fair to get credit for the extra flight.
I tend to prefer the 'not crashing into the Pacific Ocean' option sans miles/PQP/etc. option. But that's just me.
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by PLeblond
I tend to prefer the 'not crashing into the Pacific Ocean' option sans miles/PQP/etc. option. But that's just me.
You might be immune to his sense of humor.....
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 3:14 pm
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You might be immune to his sense of humor.....
Or overly cynical from too many years on FT...
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Pretty light load...

"...delayed until 3 due to catering..." Couldn't have been because the food turned bad - they just had to put in on the next plane.
Some food cannot be moved because it has exceeded shelf stability as fresh food. In those cases galleys have to be recatered.
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Old Dec 1, 2023, 9:08 pm
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I did wonder if the 1 hour out and back trip gives you BIS miles toward LF MM status

I think UA did an amazing job at service recovery:
1) $40 meal vouchers (even though I burned a 1 day pass in the lounge)
2) Free meals and drinks during the flight
3) The crew was extra friendly - even though they all had to fly back (and yes, an extra-special: "thank you for being a 1K"
4) Choice of 12500 miles or 250 ETC (hmm.... what to chose????)

yes - there was a downside to getting to OGG (for work) 6 hours late.... but all things considered......

-m
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Old Dec 2, 2023, 3:49 am
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I did wonder if the 1 hour out and back trip gives you BIS miles toward LF MM status
Of course not.

So-called butt-in-seat (BIS) mileage for determining lifetime mileage is calculated from the origin to the destination, in this case, zero.

Building a UA city pair BIS table

No airline in recorded history has credited mileage according to the actual variable flight path each individual aircraft eventually flies. Can you imagine the cost of the computer resources necessary to do this? To what end?
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Old Dec 2, 2023, 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by mfirst
I did wonder if the 1 hour out and back trip gives you BIS miles toward LF MM status
Usually no extra MM BIS on return to origin; though diversions to another airport sometimes might be in favor of pax.
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Old Dec 2, 2023, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by SFO 1K
Some food cannot be moved because it has exceeded shelf stability as fresh food. In those cases galleys have to be recatered.
Really? Fresh food on United?
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Old Dec 2, 2023, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
Of course not.

So-called butt-in-seat (BIS) mileage for determining lifetime mileage is calculated from the origin to the destination, in this case, zero.

Building a UA city pair BIS table

No airline in recorded history has credited mileage according to the actual variable flight path each individual aircraft eventually flies. Can you imagine the cost of the computer resources necessary to do this? To what end?

But, if the purpose of MM LT status is "true" BIS miles - then, well, technically an out and back still should count????
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Old Dec 3, 2023, 2:59 am
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Not when the distance between the points of embarkation and disembarkation is zero.
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