777-200: The Queen of the Breakdown
Nov 5, 2023, 4:34 pm
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777-200: The Queen of the Breakdown
Small data sample but my last 3 flights, all on 772s, suffered major mechanical delays or cancellations. Things like return to gate because an electrical panel fell out of the ceiling during taxi. I am really wondering if they are past their prime or are not getting the care they need. I know all planes break down but every time is a bit much.
Last edited by djmp; Nov 5, 2023 at 4:45 pm
Nov 5, 2023, 4:44 pm
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Small data sample but my last 3 flights, all on 772s, suffered major mechanical delays or cancellations. Things like return to gate because an electrical panel fell out of the ceiling during taxi. I am really wondering if they are past their prime or are not getting the care they need. I actually try to book away from them now.
United has a few versions of this bird. Or do you mean all of them?
https://sites.google.com/site/united...ing?authuser=0
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I probably have more than 60% of all my 1.8mio miles flying with United on the GE powered 772 (aircraft # 3001 through 3022) and I have only very, very rarely come across any mechanical issues.
Nov 5, 2023, 5:43 pm
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777-200...but which ones, exactly?
United has a few versions of this bird. Or do you mean all of them?
https://sites.google.com/site/united...ing?authuser=0
Added:
I probably have more than 60% of all my 1.8mio miles flying with United on the GE powered 772 (aircraft # 3001 through 3022) and I have only very, very rarely come across any mechanical issues.
United has a few versions of this bird. Or do you mean all of them?
https://sites.google.com/site/united...ing?authuser=0
Added:
I probably have more than 60% of all my 1.8mio miles flying with United on the GE powered 772 (aircraft # 3001 through 3022) and I have only very, very rarely come across any mechanical issues.
Nov 5, 2023, 5:51 pm
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Nov 5, 2023, 6:04 pm
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A few weeks ago my wife and I were on 777's each way LAX-EWR, and they really did look run down. I had one of those "good Lord I really am getting old moments" when I realized I still think of the 777 as a new-ish plane because my wife was on one LAX-DEN the first day United put them into service and then I realized that was 30 years ago. I was relating the story to a buddy of mine who works for Boeing and he was chuckling like, "Yeah, the 777 is definitely not a new plane."
That being said, I've been on what must have been equally old 767's in the past couple of years that he clearly been spiffed up and taken care of. I just think the 777 fleet (at least the little bit of it I saw) needs a fair amount of TLC.
That being said, I've been on what must have been equally old 767's in the past couple of years that he clearly been spiffed up and taken care of. I just think the 777 fleet (at least the little bit of it I saw) needs a fair amount of TLC.
Nov 5, 2023, 7:06 pm
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I have great memories of UA 1051, IAD-DEN, on the new 777 every few weeks. In C almost every time. And if not, in a 2-5-2 coach arrangement that got you an empty seat in a 2-pod half the time.
And Channel 9.
Nov 5, 2023, 8:09 pm
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A few weeks ago my wife and I were on 777's each way LAX-EWR, and they really did look run down. I had one of those "good Lord I really am getting old moments" when I realized I still think of the 777 as a new-ish plane because my wife was on one LAX-DEN the first day United put them into service and then I realized that was 30 years ago. I was relating the story to a buddy of mine who works for Boeing and he was chuckling like, "Yeah, the 777 is definitely not a new plane."
That being said, I've been on what must have been equally old 767's in the past couple of years that he clearly been spiffed up and taken care of. I just think the 777 fleet (at least the little bit of it I saw) needs a fair amount of TLC.
That being said, I've been on what must have been equally old 767's in the past couple of years that he clearly been spiffed up and taken care of. I just think the 777 fleet (at least the little bit of it I saw) needs a fair amount of TLC.
Nov 6, 2023, 5:02 am
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It's most likely just perception, but I feel like the GEs should be in better shape simply because CO was less likely to skimp on the optional PM for the first 66% of their lives. Not to mention that the PWs were out-of-service for several months.
Nov 6, 2023, 5:42 am
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Nov 6, 2023, 7:19 am
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I have flown PMUA 772s every year since it was introduced except the the year when PW engines had issues and required lengthy period of FAA certification.
I personally prefer the PMUA 772 for its air hoses and the roaring engine sound during take-off.
Regarding mechanical issues, perhaps it was just my luck, I only had one mechanical delays on the PMUA birds since 1995 but had a few on PMCO GE-powered 772s. 777s are fine aircrafts. Looking at my spreadsheets, I have flow them on BA, BR, NH, SQ, CA, AC, CX, TK, LX, DL, CZ, MU, OZ and KE. 777 is still the best selling wide-body aircrafts in history. Hopefully the 777X will continue its legacy.
I personally prefer the PMUA 772 for its air hoses and the roaring engine sound during take-off.
Regarding mechanical issues, perhaps it was just my luck, I only had one mechanical delays on the PMUA birds since 1995 but had a few on PMCO GE-powered 772s. 777s are fine aircrafts. Looking at my spreadsheets, I have flow them on BA, BR, NH, SQ, CA, AC, CX, TK, LX, DL, CZ, MU, OZ and KE. 777 is still the best selling wide-body aircrafts in history. Hopefully the 777X will continue its legacy.
Nov 6, 2023, 8:05 am
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A few weeks ago my wife and I were on 777's each way LAX-EWR, and they really did look run down. I had one of those "good Lord I really am getting old moments" when I realized I still think of the 777 as a new-ish plane because my wife was on one LAX-DEN the first day United put them into service and then I realized that was 30 years ago.
Nov 6, 2023, 10:02 am
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B753 and B772 fleets both having a lot of problems lately leading to cancellations and severe delays.
B77W having even more cancellations, but a lot less severe delays.
B77W having even more cancellations, but a lot less severe delays.