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Old Oct 18, 2023, 10:53 am
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UA MileagePlus: "We have no material changes planned for 2025 program year."

United announced earnings this morning. They included a statement regarding MileagePlus: "We have no material changes planned for 2025 program year."

United went on to explain that they’ve “carefully managed our premium population in recent years… we very much believe in never causing a situation where everyone has premier status” so that no one gets benefits
'No material changes' doesn't necessarily mean 'no changes' I guess, but seems like generally good news.

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Old Oct 18, 2023, 11:12 am
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United announced earnings this morning. They included a statement regarding MileagePlus: "We have no material changes planned for 2025 program year."
IMHO, the comment is designed to get the Delta Debacle back in the news cycle.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 11:14 am
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IMHO, the comment is designed to get the Delta Debacle back in the news cycle.
They definitely reference Delta (not by name) but they were also almost bound to get a question on this topic, so it was smart to just address it up front.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 11:16 am
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They definitely reference Delta (not by name) but they were also almost bound to get a question on this topic, so it was smart to just address it up front.
Well, I’m happy with the news, as I’m accelerating my efforts to reach another MM milestone.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 2:10 pm
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Define “material.”
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 2:45 pm
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Depends on what UA considers 'material'. A slight increase in PQP required? Definitely no starter bonus? No more PQS/PQP combo?

Let's see, can only be a few weeks till UA tells us about the new program.

And yeah, when I read things like that ... I am not sure I believe anything : We’ve carefully managed our premier population in recent years to maintain a robust and valuable set of benefits for each premier member. We very much believe in never causing a situation where everyone has a premier status which obviously results in no one receiving an adequate level of premier benefits. Our United strategy to offer premier members access to more premium seats than each of our competitors is enhancing the value of our frequent flyer loyalty program
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 2:49 pm
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For sure they learned a lesson from the DL debacle. If Kirby had a better marketing team they would already be leveraging it like AS and B6. No doubt they were first looking to see if they could copy it LOL.

Nothing is a constant in the world of FF programs, but it is nice to know we have another year with no takedown of elite perks, and hopefully no more devals after the last brutal round of TATL/TPAC/*A price hikes.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
Depends on what UA considers 'material'. A slight increase in PQP required? Definitely no starter bonus? No more PQS/PQP combo?

Let's see, can only be a few weeks till UA tells us about the new program.

And yeah, when I read things like that ... I am not sure I believe anything : We’ve carefully managed our premier population in recent years to maintain a robust and valuable set of benefits for each premier member. We very much believe in never causing a situation where everyone has a premier status which obviously results in no one receiving an adequate level of premier benefits. Our United strategy to offer premier members access to more premium seats than each of our competitors is enhancing the value of our frequent flyer loyalty program
Personally, I consider "no more PQS/PQP combo" to be material--it would be a significant change to the way qualification currently works. Minor tweaks to the PQPs required or not going with the starter bonus I don't see as material, despite the fact the latter would be large-ish impact. YMMV of course.

Don't we say every single year, "It's November already; how has UA not yet told us the details for next year?!" Feels like Charlie Brown and the football to think we're only a "few weeks" out from official details.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 4:20 pm
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Personally, I consider "no more PQS/PQP combo" to be material--it would be a significant change to the way qualification currently works. Minor tweaks to the PQPs required or not going with the starter bonus I don't see as material, despite the fact the latter would be large-ish impact. YMMV of course.

Don't we say every single year, "It's November already; how has UA not yet told us the details for next year?!" Feels like Charlie Brown and the football to think we're only a "few weeks" out from official details.
I'd say PQF/PQP or tweaks to PQPs are both material (partly because I can't envision a tweak of, say, 500 mile PQP increase). And a PQF change means a big PQP increase for many flyers.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 4:23 pm
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Starter PQP removal + modest PQP qualifying increase across the board would be my guess.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 5:54 pm
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Now that DL has gone to $28k for Diamond. UA will try and stay below ... $25k?
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by ty97
'No material changes' doesn't necessarily mean 'no changes' I guess, but seems like generally good news.
Good or bad is in the eye of the beholder. I am quite certain there are people who would applaud raising PQP thresholds.
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 6:50 pm
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Material to me would be moving to a credit card spend dominant system like AA. Raising thresholds in the current system would not be material in my opinion
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Old Oct 18, 2023, 7:56 pm
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I fully expect United to roll out lowest mileage awards book into Basic Economy. For sure that's coming and my guess is they just haven't written the code for the website yet. That will be another massive deval of points. But, I guess the main thread topic is supposed to mean no major changes coming to "earning/benefiting from elite status".

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Old Oct 18, 2023, 7:59 pm
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Well it didn't say no changes so we shall see what they bring. I'm on a $320 transcon 1MM run this weekend. Got to get it done.
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