What happened to the "over and back" cheap mileage run?
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LAX IAH AMS
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What happened to the "over and back" cheap mileage run?
Years ago I was apparently very bored and would spend the weekends doing a mileage run on occasion. IAH - AMS, NRT, FRA. and then heading right back. AMS was my favorite as you arrive, walk a short distance to get some food, and board the same plane an hour later and sleep the whole way home. I don't recall exactly how much it cost for Y, but I remember one time I had left my ipad at the LH lounge in frankfurt and it was cheaper to go pick it up than it was to buy a new one.
Just poking around as I have zero plans over the thanksgiving week and its like $5k in Y for Europe destinations from IAH.
Im guessing this is the norm these days?
Just poking around as I have zero plans over the thanksgiving week and its like $5k in Y for Europe destinations from IAH.
Im guessing this is the norm these days?
#4
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ORD / PHX
Programs: UA LT 1K 3MM (former 12 yr GS), Bonvoy Amb/LT Plat
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To get over the 3MM mark, I did a few ORD-SFO-SIN rt BIS runs (a couple to HKG as well) just before and after pandemic restrictions. I’d grab W fares for $1.0-$1.5k and would only travel if my 40PPs each way cleared into J.
Got it done👍.
As I have friends/former work colleagues there, I’d stay for 12/24/48 hrs each time - only once did I do the two-hour turnaround. That was rough!
Got it done👍.
As I have friends/former work colleagues there, I’d stay for 12/24/48 hrs each time - only once did I do the two-hour turnaround. That was rough!
#5
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LAX IAH AMS
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To get over the 3MM mark, I did a few ORD-SFO-SIN rt BIS runs (a couple to HKG as well) just before and after pandemic restrictions. I’d grab W fares for $1.0-$1.5k and would only travel if my 40PPs each way cleared into J.
Got it done👍.
As I have friends/former work colleagues there, I’d stay for 12/24/48 hrs each time - only once did I do the two-hour turnaround. That was rough!
Got it done👍.
As I have friends/former work colleagues there, I’d stay for 12/24/48 hrs each time - only once did I do the two-hour turnaround. That was rough!
#6
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I still MR (true mileage run) on AS, as it is still a mileage based, and it's a good program. Occasionally on UA if the CPM around 5 or lower.
Over and back = B2B (back-to-back)? Some international routes prohibit cheap runs due to min. stay requirements, but you can get around with a separate ticket in reverse (now you have got 2 MRs ).
#7
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I used to do Europe runs over Thanksgiving back in the day. I recall paying $400-ish in E+ sometimes. But I would stay for a few days and visit friends. Nowadays just thinking doing such a run in coach is too painful.
#8
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From LAX, the only decent mileage runs (3 cpm) that don’t involve an overnight, but do require a red eye are trips to Florida (MCO, MIA, FLL, TPA) or Puerto Rico. You’ll find some relatively cheap flights to SIN, NRT and LHR, but recently that’s it. They each require an overnight. SIN requires LAX-DEN-SFO-SIN-SFO-DEN-LAX to get a decent cpm (~4.5 cents). May starting in IAH to SIN would work. The deals, when they happen, are fleeting and not even close to the glory days of 2018 and 2019.
#9
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LAX IAH AMS
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From LAX, the only decent mileage runs (3 cpm) that don’t involve an overnight, but do require a red eye are trips to Florida (MCO, MIA, FLL, TPA) or Puerto Rico. You’ll find some relatively cheap flights to SIN, NRT and LHR, but recently that’s it. They each require an overnight. SIN requires LAX-DEN-SFO-SIN-SFO-DEN-LAX to get a decent cpm (~4.5 cents). May starting in IAH to SIN would work. The deals, when they happen, are fleeting and not even close to the glory days of 2018 and 2019.
I was doing about 175k BIS in the years leading up to covid... trying to make up for the lost years!
#10
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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You cancel for FFC if PP doesn't clear! Then try again next week.
#12
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ORD / PHX
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I did have to cancel a couple of times pre-departure because I was not confident PPs would clear. Never ended up in P+ or Econ.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: ORD / PHX
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From IAH, SIN is actually really reasonable at $1400 and you get about 12 hours there (enough time for Hainanese Chicken Rice for lunch and Chili Crab for dinner!) and then back. Only concern is PP clearing, even on the legs to/from SFO.
I was doing about 175k BIS in the years leading up to covid... trying to make up for the lost years!
I was doing about 175k BIS in the years leading up to covid... trying to make up for the lost years!
I did accept a few ORD-SFO and vv coach rides, but not often. And never on the long haul.
#14
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Years ago I was apparently very bored and would spend the weekends doing a mileage run on occasion. IAH - AMS, NRT, FRA. and then heading right back. AMS was my favorite as you arrive, walk a short distance to get some food, and board the same plane an hour later and sleep the whole way home. I don't recall exactly how much it cost for Y, but I remember one time I had left my ipad at the LH lounge in frankfurt and it was cheaper to go pick it up than it was to buy a new one.
Just poking around as I have zero plans over the thanksgiving week and its like $5k in Y for Europe destinations from IAH.
Im guessing this is the norm these days?
Just poking around as I have zero plans over the thanksgiving week and its like $5k in Y for Europe destinations from IAH.
Im guessing this is the norm these days?
Last edited by xliioper; Sep 25, 2023 at 11:48 am
#15
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From LAX, the only decent mileage runs (3 cpm) that don’t involve an overnight, but do require a red eye are trips to Florida (MCO, MIA, FLL, TPA) or Puerto Rico. You’ll find some relatively cheap flights to SIN, NRT and LHR, but recently that’s it. They each require an overnight. SIN requires LAX-DEN-SFO-SIN-SFO-DEN-LAX to get a decent cpm (~4.5 cents). May starting in IAH to SIN would work. The deals, when they happen, are fleeting and not even close to the glory days of 2018 and 2019.