Is Guam considered a major UA Hub? random FT question
Aug 29, 2023, 8:57 pm
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Is Guam considered a major UA Hub? random FT question
I think I know the back 1/2 of hemisphere mag like the back of my hand....and I got wondering today
UA lists pictures of the layouts of all their major hubs - and Guam?
did they just include it because they had a small corner of the page to fill?
I know that UA plays a major role in serving the islands - but how often do random readers ask "hmmm... I wonder what the airport layout is for Guam"?
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also - per other random threads - no Old Fashions on 2 segments today in E+ and no button holes on 2 segments last week in First
UA lists pictures of the layouts of all their major hubs - and Guam?
did they just include it because they had a small corner of the page to fill?
I know that UA plays a major role in serving the islands - but how often do random readers ask "hmmm... I wonder what the airport layout is for Guam"?
-m
also - per other random threads - no Old Fashions on 2 segments today in E+ and no button holes on 2 segments last week in First
Aug 29, 2023, 9:24 pm
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I think I know the back 1/2 of hemisphere mag like the back of my hand....and I got wondering today
UA lists pictures of the layouts of all their major hubs - and Guam?
did they just include it because they had a small corner of the page to fill?
I know that UA plays a major role in serving the islands - but how often do random readers ask "hmmm... I wonder what the airport layout is for Guam"?
-m
also - per other random threads - no Old Fashions on 2 segments today in E+ and no button holes on 2 segments last week in First
UA lists pictures of the layouts of all their major hubs - and Guam?
did they just include it because they had a small corner of the page to fill?
I know that UA plays a major role in serving the islands - but how often do random readers ask "hmmm... I wonder what the airport layout is for Guam"?
-m
also - per other random threads - no Old Fashions on 2 segments today in E+ and no button holes on 2 segments last week in First
GUM also has a United Club but for some reason they don't show it in Hemispheres. Great agents there. I sometimes check the airport diagram to find a lounge or see how far my gate is. My first time into an airport like GUM I would definitely take a look at the diagram.
Aug 29, 2023, 9:44 pm
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A prime definition of a hub is non-stop connectivity to all other hubs, as GUM has no connectivity to any hub, the question is answered.
GUM was a "hub" for the older Continental Micronesia operations which has mostly been dismantled. As such United still lists GUM as a "hub" but it does not operator like other hubs.
GUM was a "hub" for the older Continental Micronesia operations which has mostly been dismantled. As such United still lists GUM as a "hub" but it does not operator like other hubs.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 29, 2023 at 9:57 pm Reason: Continental Micronesia
Aug 29, 2023, 9:49 pm
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I was implying "hub" because all of the other included airports appears to be major hub/locations/destinations for UA - the GUM was clearly a "which one of these is not like the others"
Aug 29, 2023, 10:56 pm
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By your definition, UA would have scores of hubs, such as Austin and San Antonio. And Cleveland.
Aug 30, 2023, 6:32 am
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Based on this link, it's not a hub.
https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/hub-airports.html
However, GUM provides crucial connectivity in the Pacific and is a base for some aircraft and crew.
https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/hub-airports.html
However, GUM provides crucial connectivity in the Pacific and is a base for some aircraft and crew.
Aug 30, 2023, 6:37 am
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Based on this link, it's not a hub.
https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/hub-airports.html
However, GUM provides crucial connectivity in the Pacific and is a base for some aircraft and crew.
https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/hub-airports.html
However, GUM provides crucial connectivity in the Pacific and is a base for some aircraft and crew.
. https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/tra...port/maps.html. Based on the 10K 2022(where united has to truthfully report or face financial consequences), Guam is a hub
https://ir.united.com/node/30221/html
North AmericaThe Company transports people and cargo throughout North America and to destinations in Asia, Europe, Africa, the Pacific, the Middle East and Latin America. UAL, through United and its regional carriers, operates across six continents, with hubs at Newark Liberty International Airport ("EWR"), Chicago O'Hare International Airport ("ORD"), Denver International Airport ("DEN"), George Bush Intercontinental Airport ("IAH"), Los Angeles International Airport ("LAX"), A.B. Won Pat International Airport ("GUM"), San Francisco International Airport ("SFO") and Washington Dulles International Airport ("IAD").
North AmericaThe Company transports people and cargo throughout North America and to destinations in Asia, Europe, Africa, the Pacific, the Middle East and Latin America. UAL, through United and its regional carriers, operates across six continents, with hubs at Newark Liberty International Airport ("EWR"), Chicago O'Hare International Airport ("ORD"), Denver International Airport ("DEN"), George Bush Intercontinental Airport ("IAH"), Los Angeles International Airport ("LAX"), A.B. Won Pat International Airport ("GUM"), San Francisco International Airport ("SFO") and Washington Dulles International Airport ("IAD").
Facilities. United leases gates, hangar sites, terminal buildings and other airport facilities in the municipalities it serves. United has major terminal facility leases at SFO, IAD, ORD, LAX, DEN, EWR, IAH and GUM with expiration dates ranging from 2023 through 2053. Substantially all of these facilities are leased on a net-rental basis, resulting in the Company having financial responsibility for maintenance, insurance and other facility-related expenses and services.
Aug 30, 2023, 6:46 am
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Huh? I've never heard that definition of hub. A hub is a place that offers a plethora of flights to non-hubs. And, yes, of course GUM is a hub. It's not as big a hub as it used to be, sadly, but it's quite evidently a hub.
By your definition, UA would have scores of hubs, such as Austin and San Antonio. And Cleveland.
By your definition, UA would have scores of hubs, such as Austin and San Antonio. And Cleveland.
We had similar discussion in the past. Based on this link it is . https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/tra...port/maps.html.
Based on the 10K 2022(where united has to truthfully report or face financial consequences), Guam is a hub
https://ir.united.com/node/30221/html
. https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/tra...port/maps.html. Based on the 10K 2022(where united has to truthfully report or face financial consequences), Guam is a hub
https://ir.united.com/node/30221/html
Aug 30, 2023, 7:24 am
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Isn't UA the only airline allowed to provide pax services to mainland US based on some kind of government agreement? I would assume there are plenty of active personnel on the flight?
Aug 30, 2023, 7:36 am
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I think of a "hub" as an airport that facilitates lots of connecting traffic, and I think GUM does not do very much of that. Some, sure, but the vast majority of GUM's traffic seems to be local so I'd say it's more like a focus city operation than a hub operation.
Aug 30, 2023, 7:40 am
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https://www.kuam.com/story/36387639/...g-guam-service
Aug 30, 2023, 9:08 am
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As for who can fly from Guam to conusa under govt money
Fly America act , if USA gov is funding , must use a "USA flag carrier", but there are exceptions (open skies EU/Japan/..., or USA carrier codesharing on other metal, or other )
https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulatio...ly-america-act.
If military/DOD, open skies may not apply (there a lot of rules, see example PDF https://globetrottermgmt.com/globe/w...-checklist.pdf.
I'm too lazy to see if GUM-NRT (UA codeshare on NH) , NRT-SFO(UA) would count as DOD military