UA 777 Captain showed up drunk to fly CDG-IAD 23 July 2023; sentenced in France
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UA 777 Captain showed up drunk to fly CDG-IAD 23 July 2023; sentenced in France
UA flight Paris to IAD was delayed then canceled because of crew shortage. They eventually said it was because they couldn’t find a replacement captain. Getting flights rebooked for tomorrow and then getting hotel voucher took almost three hours. Navigating CDG airport to get new tickets and luggage was a nightmare. Hope flight tomorrow goes better.
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UA flight Paris to IAD was delayed then canceled because of crew shortage. They eventually said it was because they couldn’t find a replacement captain. Getting flights rebooked for tomorrow and then getting hotel voucher took almost three hours. Navigating CDG airport to get new tickets and luggage was a nightmare. Hope flight tomorrow goes better.
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United 777 Captain removed from CDG-IAD flight with blood-alcohol level 6x the limit
https://www.businessinsider.com/united-airlines-pilot-showed-up-drunk-work-six-months-sentence-2023-7
Pretty crazy stuff here. I wonder how UA handles situations like this. Slap on the wrist and back in the Captains chair? Demotion? Suspension? AA? Retraining? Termination? Seems like absolutely awful judgement. Nice job by CDG security for possibly preventing a disaster.
"A United Airlines pilot who showed up to work under the influence of alcohol was handed a six-month suspended prison sentence by a French court on Tuesday, Le Parisien reported.The 63-year-old American, identified by the newspaper only as Henry W, was set to fly from Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris to Washington Dulles Airport in Virginia on Sunday.
The pilot told the court that he had only drunk two glasses of wine the previous night, but police officers said the pilot was "showing signs of obvious drunkenness" when he arrived for work at 3 p.m., The Local reported.
Le Parisien reported that the pilot had a blood-alcohol level of 0.132%, more than six times the legal limit for pilots in Europe and three times the Federal Aviation Administration's limit."
Pretty crazy stuff here. I wonder how UA handles situations like this. Slap on the wrist and back in the Captains chair? Demotion? Suspension? AA? Retraining? Termination? Seems like absolutely awful judgement. Nice job by CDG security for possibly preventing a disaster.
"A United Airlines pilot who showed up to work under the influence of alcohol was handed a six-month suspended prison sentence by a French court on Tuesday, Le Parisien reported.The 63-year-old American, identified by the newspaper only as Henry W, was set to fly from Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris to Washington Dulles Airport in Virginia on Sunday.
The pilot told the court that he had only drunk two glasses of wine the previous night, but police officers said the pilot was "showing signs of obvious drunkenness" when he arrived for work at 3 p.m., The Local reported.
Le Parisien reported that the pilot had a blood-alcohol level of 0.132%, more than six times the legal limit for pilots in Europe and three times the Federal Aviation Administration's limit."
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Is he even eligible for retirement? In my industry, also transportation, if you committe a firable offense and choose to resign, they’ll still go through the proceedings to terminate you. Might not be much of a difference financially, but costs you your NRSA pass and any other employee provided retirement benefits. If your not of retirement age, it prevents you from being rehired and in the case of D&A, puts a mark on your licenses (not drivers licenses) that makes you inelligable to perform service for any other carrier, if you hold one.
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Is he even eligible for retirement? In my industry, also transportation, if you committe a firable offense and choose to resign, they’ll still go through the proceedings to terminate you. Might not be much of a difference financially, but costs you your NRSA pass and any other employee provided retirement benefits. If your not of retirement age, it prevents you from being rehired and in the case of D&A, puts a mark on your licenses (not drivers licenses) that makes you inelligable to perform service for any other carrier, if you hold one.
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It sounds like .02 BAC in Europe and .04 for the U.S.
Having done DUI defense, inter alia, at the CNMI Office of the Public Defender for 4½ years, those cut-offs do not concern me.
Having done DUI defense, inter alia, at the CNMI Office of the Public Defender for 4½ years, those cut-offs do not concern me.
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Pretty crazy stuff here. I wonder how UA handles situations like this. Slap on the wrist and back in the Captains chair? Demotion? Suspension? AA? Retraining? Termination? Seems like absolutely awful judgement. Nice job by CDG security for possibly preventing a disaster.
Last edited by DataPlumber; Jul 28, 2023 at 6:00 am
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The pilot in question will loose their medical certificate with the FAA all but certain to be fired by UA. The process they would have to go through to get the medical and job reinstated would take years. I’ve read a few articles on the topic. Given their reported age, they won’t be flying anything at UA again.
While sympathize, it's horrible to put that many lives at risk (and potentially more lives on another plane or on the ground). It seems appropriate that he's never gonna fly again.
I can't help but wonder if he's gotten away with it before...
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